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London Entertainment Resort: All Discussion

Possible longest thread ever lol,

Agree with you Dave, Merlin do indeed need more competition, however it think if this does start to get a move on we might see Merlin sell up?
 
A step forward.

Kent Online said:
New Thames crossing will not cut through Paramount Park land on Swanscombe peninsula after government rules out one of three routes

One of the routes for a new Thames crossing has been ruled out today - safeguarding an area earmarked for the huge Paramount theme park project.

Transport minister Robert Goodwell has this morning revealed that the idea for a crossing through the Swanscombe peninsula has been abandoned following consultation.

The route for option B would have gone through an area being earmarked for the proposed multi-billion pound Paramount theme park.

However options A, next to the existing Dartford crossing and C, between Gravesend and Strood, are still on the table.

Option C would link the M25, A13 in Essex with the M2 at junction 1 (Strood). A new approach road would spur off the motorway through Shorne and cross the river east of Chalk.

It has caused the greatest concern for wildlife lovers with Shorne Woods Country Park facing the prospect of being cut in half by the crossing work.

But it is preferred by most people in Dartford, who are concerned about increased pollution if the new crossing is built effectively alongside the existing one.

A decision on which of these two will be built is to be made after further environmental studies of the remaining options.

However, a Department for Transport source said a final decision on the chosen route is not expected until at least May after the local elections.

Tony Sefton, project director for London Resort Company Holdings, developer of the £2.3billion Paramount Park, welcomed the news.

He said: "I'm delighted for the area, especially for the people of Dartford and Gravesham because it will make a big difference. I'm delighted for the project, which stays very much on track.

"We are looking forward to working with the Department for Transport and the Highways Agency in a close partnership for the regeneration of the area."
Where should a new Thames crossing be built?

It is understood that land acquisition is close to completion, with confirmation expected early in the New Year.

The developer has said it is keen to use local design, business and recruitment firms on the project which could create up to 27,000 jobs.

Transport minister Robert Goodwell said: "The department's review of options showed that option B has the weakest case.

"Consultation feedback has additionally shown that option B receives limited support and instead raises serious concerns that it would jeopardise major redevelopment of the Swanscombe Peninsula, a key part of the growth strategy for the Thames Gateway area.

"The consultation evidence has persuaded me that this decision is one that has far reaching consequences for local people and users of the crossing..." - transport minister Robert Goodwell

"A number of stakeholders have urged me to discard this option as swiftly as possible.

"I have therefore decided that there are sufficient grounds to discard option B and that government should focus on the choice between options A and C.

"The consultation evidence has persuaded me that this decision is one that has far reaching consequences for local people and users of the crossing. It is therefore not a decision to be taken lightly."

He added he is now taking more advice on the impact the schemes would have on air quality and the environment before making a further statement "as soon as possible".

Transport secretary Patrick McLoughlin said: "We had over 5,700 responses to the consultation and we have carefully considered each of them.

"Ruling out the least attractive option now gives some clarity for local residents and businesses.

"We are committed to making a decision on the location of the new crossing as soon as possible, but we recognise that whatever crossing location is chosen it will have significant impact for people in the area and the economy.

"These are tough decisions to be made and must not be taken lightly."

Dartford MP Gareth Johnson said he is delighted by the government's decision to rule out building a new crossing on the Swanscombe Peninsula.

He said: "This will be welcome news for local residents and for developers who are keen to make a significant investment in that area.

"The government has recognised the huge potential that exists in Swanscombe and the potential for jobs and the future economic benefits for the Dartford area.

"The Swanscombe peninsular, right next to the High Speed 1 station at Ebbsfleet, has enormous potential.

"Paramount is very keen to build a theme park on the Swanscombe peninsular, which would generate significant jobs and revitalise the area. I am really pleased that the announcement today will help to facilitate this."

Mr Johnson added: "People in Dartford are fed up with the misery that the Dartford crossing has given them over many years. We don't want another crossing in this area and this decision does at least rule out one of the locations where we could have had an additional crossing.

"I am also glad the Department of Transport has listened to the environmental concerns which have arisen in the consultation and that further investigation will be carried out to assess the impact on the local area of having a crossing at either option A or C.

"I have always felt that it would be premature to give the go-ahead to another Thames crossing right now.

"Next autumn the automated booths at the Dartford Crossing come in to operation, and it would be far more beneficial to monitor the effects of this before committing to another Thames crossing in North West Kent."

Dartford Borough Council leader Jeremy Kite said: "I am naturally very pleased that the uncertainty surrounding the Swanscombe Paramount park project has been lifted.

"It had been a real issue in talking to potential backers because they have not been sure whether the bridge would cut through the sides of the site - so it is nice to see that lifted.

"I hope what the government is now doing is thinking about the environmental mitigations in regards to route C, but just about about every business voice in the region told them route C was the only viable option.

"We all want it implemented without major damage to the rural communities."

Gravesham Borough Council leader John Burden said he always expected option B to be ruled out early - but said the decision leaves uncertainty.

He said: "This is still not a good thing for local people because it leaves a lot of uncertainty. It just continues the blight for them.

"I'm not surprised that B has gone, because of the Paramount scheme. All they're doing is leaving people further in the lurch."

The proposal for a new crossing was made in the autumn statement of 2011 and has been eagerly anticipated and hotly debated ever since.

Kent County Council leader Paul Carter expressed disappointment that a final route has not been selected - and pushed for a "rapid decision".

He said: "We were promised that there would be a quick turnaround on the decision for a third Thames crossing and I am disappointed that no decision has been made.

"It is a massively important project to unlock significant growth in the Thames gateway and we will be asking ministers for a rapid decision on the two options that remain. It is too vital a project to be allowed to drift any longer.

"Option C represents the best long-term logical solution to the transport challenges we face in Kent and the south east – by combining the greatest economic benefits for the residents of Kent, with a route that alleviates pressure on the M25 and our network.

"We undertook thorough analysis of each option and provided detailed evidence which showed clearly that this route represented the biggest gain for residents and the economy.

"We will continue to work closely with the Department for Transport to get the best for our residents and businesses and press to accelerate delivery of this much needed infrastructure."

Gravesham MP Adam Holloway said: "A decision on the crossing was due to be made before the end of the year, and I am disappointed that this uncertainty will hang over us through Christmas and the New Year.

"That said, I am reassured to know that the Department for Transport is taking the issue seriously and wants to consider all responses to the consultation carefully before deciding one way or another.

"Hopefully they will recognise the strength of our local feeling against option C, and that there is a case for delaying any decision at all until we can see the effects of removing the tolls at Dartford next October.

"I spoke to the minister again on Tuesday and emphasised this point, as well as the abridge2far group's argument about running freight trains from the continent straight into Essex.

"I will continue to keep in touch with constituents about this and I hope it will not be too long into 2014 before we have a decision. If the news then is disappointing, I would like to reassure people that this is not the end – we will continue to fight this."
 
Exciting news that a possible large stumbling block for the project has been eliminated. I'm also interested to see that they almost have all the land they need and that an announcement on the project will be made in the new year.

I really, really hope the positive news continues to drop through.


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Hmm things are looking quite positive regarding the park, but I'm not going to get too excited until any construction starts. I really hope it does happen, and I have a feeling that it will. I just think it's going to be slow going.

:)
 
I don't care how many reputable people claim to have insider knowledge about this project, I still say it'll never happen.
 
DiogoJ42 said:
I don't care how many reputable people claim to have insider knowledge about this project, I still say it'll never happen.

Gotta agree - the UK struggles with small parks, I find the idea of a large one actually opening over here to be too good to be true.
 
Well I for one am very excited about this project. For once the local people are on board over a project which is a huge bonus. It will see large numbers of jobs brought to the area and regenerate the entire region.

The signs are all there that this will also get planning approval which is another huge obstacle, especially with the government ruling out the Option B new crossing which would have gone through the middle of the park.

Now of course, its the funding which needs to be in place, but I have every faith that this will be achieved.

Yes, we have had big parks planned before and nothing came to fruition, but I just have a feeling about this. If I am wrong, I am wrong, but hopefully I am right.


If anything, I am actually more excited about the other parks in the UK who would HAVE to up their game if this park went ahead. I dont really think a set of Dodgems and a few plastic figures tarting up old rides would cut it anymore.

Bring it on is what I say !! ;D
 
Following the recent Garden City announcement in Ebbsfleet, the Paramount developers had this to say:

London Resort Company Holdings said:
"We welcome the announcement by the Chancellor for the new Garden City at Ebbsfleet and we believe this will help to consolidate the exciting vision for the area.

"We continue to develop our proposals and look forward to talking with the local community when we are in a position to share the detail."

Not a huge update, but I think this could have a beneficial impact on the proposal if more money is being invested in this area. Still early days, but at least it's something :)

Source: http://www.kentonline.co.uk/kent_business/news/developers-welcome-city-plans-14292/
 
i used to get really excited for this sort of project....until a massive devlopment in my home town for a 200ft indoor ski slope and the worlds largest indoor climbing wall was promised and then fell through....even after planning permission was granted!
 
RustyRider said:
i used to get really excited for this sort of project....until a massive devlopment in my home town for a 200ft indoor ski slope and the worlds largest indoor climbing wall was promised and then fell through....even after planning permission was granted!

I half expected you to start going all NIMBY on us before I finished reading that. ;) But yeah I guess with these sort of projects its a 50/50 chance of the thing actually happening. There's hope though! :p
 
Blizzard said:
RustyRider said:
i used to get really excited for this sort of project....until a massive devlopment in my home town for a 200ft indoor ski slope and the worlds largest indoor climbing wall was promised and then fell through....even after planning permission was granted!

I half expected you to start going all NIMBY on us before I finished reading that. ;) But yeah I guess with these sort of projects its a 50/50 chance of the thing actually happening. There's hope though! :p

The sad thing is, just like this project, the one in my town was actually backed by all the locals which made it even more frustrating. i really hope they pull this off though as it'll be fantastic to have somewhere new and competitive to go!
 
I've got family that live in bassildon/pitsea area. That would be pretty good for me, if thus does happen. I could imagine a roller coaster, based on the film Italian job, and a tomb raider style ride.
Hope the park concentrates on more english bassed films, than American.
 
New update in News Shopper. http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/11100298.Gravesham_councillors_in___15_000_Orlando_theme_park_trip/


'Poll: Gravesham councillors in £15,000 Disney World trip

Gravesham Council’s top brass are heading to Disney World on a £15,000 trip ahead of plans for a massive theme park in Swanscombe.

Five councillors, including leader Coun John Burden, and four officers will be flying to, Orlando, Florida on April 19 for a three day visit.

As well as Disney World the party will take in Universal Studios and Island of Adventure as well as neighbouring developments and communities.

The trip has been organised by developers London Resort Company Holdings who are behind plans for the £2 billion Paramount Park development in the Swanscombe peninsula.

Coun Burden said: “The programme for this visit is extremely busy being packed with serious business discussions which should provide invaluable insights into the issues surrounding the development of a truly global attraction on our doorstep.

“It is entirely right the council examines all these issues fully and we are grateful to LRCH for facilitating these meetings with key people and communities which have had direct experience of facing and overcoming those challenges.



The Gravesham Council party will be on their way to Disney World next month.

“This is the biggest development project in Europe and has global significance.

“The impact it will have is life-changing for everyone in the area and possibly far beyond.

“We have to get this right and prepare to be in a position to inform the discussions yet to come.”

The council claims the cost of the visit – approximately £15,441 – will be met from the costs of processing the planning application.

A council spokesman said the sum represents just a small slice of a pot of money running into the hundreds of thousands of pounds which will be made available by LRCH.

Such a fund to cover expenses incurred by planning authorities is normal for projects of this size once an expected planning application is put in later this year.

But for now the cost of the visit over the April bank holiday will be covered by council tax payers.



Councillors hope to learn more about managing the Paramount Park planning process.

A council press release trumpeted the event as a chance for councillors to “see at close quarters the issues for local communities surrounding the establishment of a world-class leisure project”.

Coun Burden added: “It would be foolish to see this project as just another planning application because in reality the scheme is of almost unimaginable proportions with colossal repercussions.”

It is claimed first-hand knowledge of similarly large projects will help councillors and officers deal with the complicated planning process for Paramount Park.

LRCH has set up meetings with senior figures in Florida who had to deal with the massive effects on transportation, housing and the local economy caused by theme parks.

The Paramount Park scheme, announced in November 2012, could bring up to 27,000 jobs to north Kent.

A 70-acre site of mainly derelict land straddling the border between Gravesham and Dartford is set to be developed.

Bryan Sweetland, Gravesham Council Conservative Councillor for Istead Rise, said: “At a time when Gravesham’s Labour controlled council have just increased our council tax and council house rents, organising an expenses paid sight seeing trip to Florida for nine councillors and staff simply proves they are completely out of touch with ordinary people.

"This will be seen by the general public as another jolly and I want no part in it.

"I’m sure they will feel completely at home in the Magic Kingdom."

Full list of Orlando attendees:

1. Coun John Burden (Gravesham Council leader)
2. Coun Jane Cribbon (chair of the regulatory board)
3. Coun Andrea Webb (cabinet member for communities)
4. Coun John Cubitt (leader of the opposition group)
5. Coun Robin Theobald (planning shadow lead member)
6. Kevin Burbidge (director of housing and regeneration)
7. Simon Hookway (economic development manager)
8. Peter Price (principal planning officer)
9. Wendy Lane (principal planner, policy).
 
All looking good...thank god they're going to Disney rather than a Merlin park to gauge a comparison. ;)

Had to laugh at this though:

Coun Burden said: “The programme for this visit is extremely busy being packed with serious business discussions"

I can imagine! :p
 
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