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Blackpool Pleasure Beach: General Discussion

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skyscraper said:
Because of the social media reaction, i'm beginning to worry that it may affect visitor numbers this year. People are saying not to visit the park because of this :eek:.
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They probably think that having a Mack mega next year will make the park irresistible so removing the wild mouse would have been considered minimal impact on guest numbers
 
From what I've heard (from reliable sources). This was a decision made from the very top and others disagreed with the decision to close the ride, but were overruled.

Also heard that h&s signed the ride off after the seat belt changes. Insurance premiums gone up but still insurable.

It obviously proved too expensive to continue to insure but what they should have done was taken the extra costs on the chin for one more season and advertised the heck out of it being the mouses last year.

Alteratavely they could have taken a step back, left it SBNO for now and then re-assesed things at a later date.

Closing a ride is entirely up to the park. You cannot have a go at them for that, but the backlash they are getting for the manner in which they have closed one of the most unique and historic coasters in the world is well deserved IMO.








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skyscraper said:
Don't fret, it may not have gone for good! A tweet from Blackpool South Pier appeared not long after:
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I can’t see them have carefully removing it to reassemble it on the south pier o_O
 
ASturge21 said:
They probably think that having a Mack mega next year will make the park irresistible so removing the wild mouse would have been considered minimal impact on guest numbers
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Tbf they'll be right. Let this stew for a bit then remind everyone of Icon and no one will remember all this. Better for all concerned really that we find out now rather than in March to take the shine away from Icon.
 
shakey said:
Closing a ride is entirely up to the park. You cannot have a go at them for that
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Why does this keep being said? You can have a go at them for it. Buildings and structures of historic value don't just belong to whoever legally owns them, they belong to all of us as part of our shared cultural heritage. This is not a radical point-of-view - it's broadly supported across the entire political spectrum.

The application I made for it to be listed was incorrectly assessed by Historical England, whose findings contained a number of factual inaccuracies and logical errors. If it had been assessed properly it would have been legally protected from its owners like the Nash and Dipper have.
 
Sam said:
If it had been assessed properly it would have been legally protected from its owners like the Nash and Dipper have.
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If it had been protected it would probably sit SBNO for the rest of eternity, they'd already spent money on it before deciding to pull it down so "You can't demolish it" turns the outcome into "SBNO forever then".
 
Sam said:
Why does this keep being said? You can have a go at them for it. Buildings and structures of historic value don't just belong to whoever legally owns them, they belong to all of us as part of our shared cultural heritage. This is not a radical point-of-view - it's broadly supported across the entire political spectrum.

The application I made for it to be listed was incorrectly assessed by Historical England, whose findings contained a number of factual inaccuracies and logical errors. If it had been assessed properly it would have been legally protected from its owners like the Nash and Dipper have.
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Fair point Sam. It should have been listed, and it probably had a better case than the rides that did get listed.

Unfortunately the listing process isn't really geared towards rides themselves, more the structures.

It's a shame the ride didn't get the protection it clearly needed but it didn't, and as a result the park could do what they want with it. That doesn't make it morally right I know and it's tough to take.

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Could it be why the removed it now in fear that it could possibly get listed in the future and then they would be stuck with it.
 
Just think, at some point we all unknowingly took our last ever ride on THE Wild Mouse.

I've been an enthusiast for some time now, but this has probably been the most shocking news to come out, on par with the sudden Pleasureland closure.

As heart breaking as this is, I'm happy that I got ride it plenty of times though.

And I don't care who says what, it's my opinion that they don't appear to care about the ONE thing that the PB is dependant on - their heritage. Just look at the state of the River Caves. It's 2018, the Mouse could have been saved if they wanted to do so.

This news wouldn't have been anywhere near as shocking if it was Dips or Nash. Guttering still, but the Mouse was so incredibly unique. I'm so gutted it's gone.

Is there not anything Dreamland can do? They were hellbent on getting King Solomon reopened but certain parts were damaged beyond repair, I'm pretty certain most of the Mouse was in good nic?
 
Look at the state of the River Caves.
Didn't you spot the scaffolding behind the invisible mouse then...frontage being done up by the look of things.
Might be wrong...often am.

And Solomon's Mines was a very poor relation...and the Dreamland heritage heroes left it out in all weather to rot apparently.
 
bluesonichd said:
Could it be why the removed it now in fear that it could possibly get listed in the future and then they would be stuck with it.
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Exactly my thoughts. I bet it might be quite frightening as a park owner to think that much of your limited land may become listed and undevelopable. It doesn't bode well for the park being able to compete 120 years down the line in a world that we cannot begin to imagine.
 
Lordy said:
Is there not anything Dreamland can do? They were hellbent on getting King Solomon reopened but certain parts were damaged beyond repair, I'm pretty certain most of the Mouse was in good nic?
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I think all Mouse parts are 'damaged beyond repair' now sadly. I wouldn't imagine that providing donor parts to another park was high on BPB's priorities !
 
Sam said:
Why does this keep being said? You can have a go at them for it. Buildings and structures of historic value don't just belong to whoever legally owns them, they belong to all of us as part of our shared cultural heritage. This is not a radical point-of-view - it's broadly supported across the entire political spectrum.
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You raise an interesting point. My counter argument would be that Pleasure Beach (by which I mean the Thompson family) arn’t just the owners, they manufactured and maintained the ride over all these years. So why shouldn’t they be the ones to decide what happens to it?

If this was a case of a company like Merlin coming in and buying the park my view might be different. This decision has been made by the people who know the ride best. Dare I say they might have even more fond memory’s of it than any of us can claim.
 
I've got nothing to share really that hasn't been said already but I want my objections to this noted, so here goes...

PLACE HOLDER RAGE!!!:mad:

Now breathe.
 
The ride took up a very small space that they'll be hard pressed to find anything to fill, at least anything that does justice to it. It's not as if its existence was getting in the way of the park progressing.
 
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