2019 General Election Poll and Discussion

So we have a majority Conservative government.

I personally think our country will be worse off for it, but it seems the electorate do want Brexit done and happy to push that through overriding other concerns.

In terms of Labour, I think Jeremy Corbyn should stand down at this point. He's too divisive and Labour are potentially too left for a lot of people to feel comfortable with.

At least with a majority it will unlock governance of the country. The Pound is now the strongest it's been for ages as we have some stability.

My other hope is a strong majority for Boris Johnson means he can ignore some of the more extreme Brexiteers in his party and go for a more sensible compromise. Let's see what happens.

Well, I did think the Tory's would win but I didn't realise by such a landslide. Labour lost because of Corbyn. I'm glad to see he is going to step down. He should have in 2017 after losing then.

Happy Friday the 13th everyone

This is what happens when you put the decision into the hand of the people, the USA ends up with Trump, we get Boris and we mustn't forget Boaty McBoatface

Well, I'll admit the result is disappointing.

There are a few silver linings though, it is decisive and I believe it will lead to action on Brexit. Also the conservatives got us here, it's kind of expected that they should finish it.

Really hope that the Tories weren't lying about their spending and austerity being over.

RoyJess said:

Happy Friday the 13th everyone

This is what happens when you put the decision into the hand of the people, the USA ends up with Trump, we get Boris and we mustn't forget Boaty McBoatface

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However - I still think it is a better outcome than Comrade Corbyn, as it seems, did the rest of the country.

GaryH said:

However - I still think it is a better outcome than Comrade Corbyn, as it seems, did the rest of the country.

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It’s a bit early to say you told us so... let’s see how you feel in a year when Brexit still isn’t done and everything is a bit more broken.

Stuie said:

It’s a bit early to say you told us so... let’s see how you feel in a year when Brexit still isn’t done and everything is a bit more broken.

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I was talking about Brexit being too early to determine if it was a good decision or not. Corbyn not being PM is/was a good decision. I'm sure Brexit will progress much better now but yes, we will have to wait and see how the progresses wont we.

GaryH said:

However - I still think it is a better outcome than Comrade Corbyn, as it seems, did the rest of the country.

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I'll reserve judgement for now, but even if Comrade Corbyn delivered a quarter of his promises we'll be better than five more years of Tory cuts and a hard Brexit.

But who knows - maybe this'll be a turning point for the Conservative party? Hmmm.

can we all now move on and love each other again

We won't stop that easily. What else have we got to get through Closed season?

The sheep seem to want to go to the slaughterhouse

Some people need to take a good look at themselves with regards to their behaviour as their hidden nasty sides have been coming out last night and today because they didn't get their own way. Some of the comments from so-called lefties who apparently care about their fellow man/woman have been an absolute disgrace. I'm talking about the wider internet really but a couple on here could do with having a word with themselves.

Come on, Barry, it's a difficult time. You've got your right-wing vision of the country installed, other people are simply disappointed to see what they perceive as rampant inequality to continue.

Don't be such a snowflake.

RoyJess said:

This is what happens when you put the decision into the hand of the people, the USA ends up with Trump, we get Boris and we mustn't forget Boaty McBoatface

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Yeah, screw democracy! No

the strangest reaction so far is Jo Swinson, warning against “the tide of populism”, despite her previously campaigning for a “peoples vote” (a deliberately populist renaming of a second referendum) and then a populist “stop Brexit” campaign to inflate their votership with no care for how they were actually going to do that. Just admit you failed and move on.

Plastic Person said:

Don't be such a snowflake.

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Im sure he was only being civil with that post!

@BarryZola while I agree with your sentiments, there are nasty people on both sides of the political spectrum. I've lost track of the time Brexiteers have called Remainers "traitors".

I don't see anyone being personal?

Speaking of snowflakes (edit: by the time I replied the mention of snowflakes is 3 posts up, but I tried to segue) I quite surprised to see Piers Morgan being so "Triggered" this morning. Ranting on about how people who believe in remain should (to paraphrase) shutup, as if the voting in of governments should censor all opposing opinions.

It's been a curious day, media-wise. Even the Gaurdian have returned to bashing Corbyn.

I'm not even going to argue. Just thought it was worth mentioning, and I've not been an angel myself either. Only time and honest reflection will lead people to realise why Corbyn wasn't capable of putting up a decent opposition to a pretty poor Tory government in the eyes of the majority of the population. So yeah, have a moan and whatever for a while if it makes you feel better, but at some point the Labour party have got to actually listen to the working man and not just fob them off as racist, uncaring or stupid whenever they bring up certain genuine concerns or vote in a certain way on certain things.

Lurker said:

It's been a curious day, media-wise. Even the Guardian have returned to bashing Corbyn.

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I have no idea what will happen next. Nobody does, of course. But I think The Graun are of the view that ousting Corbyn and replacing him with a Blairite centrist leader will begin the healing process and set the course for victory. But I'm not so sure. Seeing absolute guaranteed Labour safe seats, communities whose hatred of the Tories is dyed into the wool of their character, elect the opposition in this case is borderline unbelievable. They didn't vote for the centre. They voted for the furthest right government in decades, even if it might impact their own lives negatively quicker than they expect.

Corbyn's legacy is now largely dog turds, but he has shifted the Overton Window to the left in regards to issues concerning wealth inequality and taxation. Boris will have to deal with those expectations, as well as Brexit. He won't deal with them well, if at all. I think that's when things will begin to buckle, especially if Brexit doesn't lead us into the new Glorious Age as we have been promised. Not that the Tories will care, as they will probably be even richer.

Nonetheless, without completely abandoning the youth support that Labour have picked up this time round, I think the left need to focus on what in Corbyn's manifesto was most appealing and most realistic, and run with it. But it was the dilly dallying on Brexit that killed his chances, as well as his failure to engage or charm anyone outside of the circles likely to support him. The left, and even centre-left, are going to continue fighting what feels like an impossible war against the Murdoch press and social media disinformation, but they really need someone who can get their hands dirty from this point forward.

It's going to be bleak.

These people still don't get it to they? It's things like this that make a mockery of the Labour cause.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/pol...-boris-johnson-general-election-a4313391.html