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The Brexit Thread

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Britford said:
Seriously, listen to yourselves!
Your all acting like children, this is exactly WHY the remoaner label exists!

Also, can we NOT all turn into awful bigots?
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Euro sceptics have been around for years...

...so why can't I be a Brexit sceptic?

I'm not a bigot and never has been, quiet the opposite.


Did any one notice that Boris was no where to be seen during the celebrations last night?...

...I hear rumours that he was hiding inside a fridge!
 
Insulting leave voters hasn't been a terribly effective tactic so far, so I'm amazed it continues.

We have now legally left and the referendum result has finally been implemented. Those of a pro-EU position should now shift tactics to one of government scrutiny, and making a case for a UK return. No longer can the arguments of people wanting to 'overturn the result of the referendum' etc be made. The remain camp should be emboldened by what's happened, but insulting leavers will not help.
 
The fact is that leave voters, generally speaking, have a low IQ.

That is just a fact, and it is reinforced by the fact that I'm yet to meet a leave voter who makes a coherent argument for leaving.

Insulting people who voted for something they didnt understand and then attack those who are sceptical as being unpatriotic "remoaners" is hardly illogical.
 
Tom said:
Insulting leave voters hasn't been a terribly effective tactic so far, so I'm amazed it continues.

We have now legally left and the referendum result has finally been implemented. Those of a pro-EU position should now shift tactics to one of government scrutiny, and making a case for a UK return. No longer can the arguments of people wanting to 'overturn the result of the referendum' etc be made. The remain camp should be emboldened by what's happened, but insulting leavers will not help.
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It goes both ways, I think that you'll find that the Brexiteers have also been insulting the remainers. Also not to mention the amount of racially motivated hate crime that has escalated since the referendum.

We live in a democracy, we are all free to voice our opinions without being dictated to, however I don't condone personal attacks and insults directly aimed at individuals. I've now accepted that we have now left the EU, but this doesn't mean that I agree with it.
 
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I am probably going to get labelled as independence sceptic. I am going to have an option and voice it.

The one thing we all must remember is everyone has the right to voice their option. However it come with responsibilities. One of them is not to personally insult someone with differing views to yourself.

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Britford said:
Seriously, listen to yourselves!
Your all acting like children, this is exactly WHY the remoaner label exists!

Also, can we NOT all turn into awful bigots?
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I can’t say me and Rick have always agreed but there is nothing I can add to his reply to your bewildering racist defending attempt at hyper morality.

Quite frankly you deserve nothing and history will treat you and your opinion with a harsh and opinionated derision. And that’s not all leavers because some have a genuine issue with the EU (though those folk genuinely don’t like the current brexit strategy). This is you who have quite clearly said your aim is to rid the land of foreign people.... go think on that.
 
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Leave won - whether or not leavers insult remainers is irrelevant. They got what they voted for. They don't need to convince remainers to change their mind.

If you're in the business of wanting to return to the EU, adopting the position of "they insulted me, so I'll insult them" isn't likely to lead to success.

The question and strategy going forward now cannot be anything other than "was it worth it?"
 
I'd also say assuming someone's IQ based on how they voted isn't the wisest opinion to express either, I won't name names for obvious reasons but I can absolutely assure you some people I know who voted Brexit were far from having a low IQ.

The really ironic thing here is also the picture Danny posted is a fair description of what an MP generally thinks of you, regardless of which way you voted or how high your IQ is.
 
Dave said:
I can’t say me and Rick have always agreed but there is nothing I can add to his reply to your bewildering racist defending attempt at hyper morality.

Quite frankly you deserve nothing and history will treat you and your opinion with a harsh and opinionated derision. And that’s not all leavers because some have a genuine issue with the EU (though those folk genuinely don’t like the current brexit strategy). This is you who have quite clearly said your aim is to rid the land of foreign people.... go think on that.
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Wow calm down...when did I say I wanted to rid this land of foreign people?
What's "hyper morality'?
Why cant I also have a a genuine issue with the EU and the current brexit strategy?

REALLY, listen to yourself, going on about how I, personally, deserve nothing and will go down in history as a bad person...holy s**t man!


The basis of the argument seems to be that this post, proves I am racist...
Britford said:
If it was the aging population (causing the issues with the NHS) it would have been detected well in advance and sufficiently prepared for way before the mass immigration started!

Instead, mass immigration starts, affects the NHS then the media establishment (who all share the same ideology) mobilise to protect the narrative...in this case, it's that old white people are killing the NHS but it's far from the only time this media conspiracy has happened...

There was the new doctor who for example. Snce the BBC need to push the narrative that "the future is female" they decided to make the doctor a woman for no good reason...since only a hack would agree to this, it has awful writing and as a result, fails...thats when the media start "the feminist cycle"
First, they all, in unison, blindly declare it a resounding success and anyone who says it isnt, is smeared as an evil sexist...then, after a brief bout of panicked confusion, they all in unison, blame men...then "alt right trolls" until finally, they settle on the narrative of it being due to franchise fatigue!
Not once do they accept that maybe...people simply find it boring...

Anyway
I simply don't believe the claims of it being caused by the UK nationals, it simply doesn't add up to me.
It's also disregarding the unknown amount of illegals who arrive by boat and are then effectively released into the wild on the agreement that, of their own volition, will willingly report back for deportation...they are illegal so they can't work for the NHS but they can still use it, no questions asked...

Also, can we not have a civilised debate without degenerating into childish, false accusations?
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All i was saying, is that I don't believe that the NHS issue, is caused mostly by white people...
(Also, c'mon...the phrase "effectively released into the wild" is obviously, a figure of speech...)
 
Sorry I work for the NHS, you have presented no logic for your arguments other than a hate for cultures outside of your own. I don’t think Rick misquoted you did he?

Obviously on a forum I ain’t going to elaborate too much on the nature of my job in the NHS but it is both clinical and managerial in responsibility. I can tell you I have spent more time dealing with the clinical impact of Brexit more than any other issue in the last 4 years.
 
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