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Great Yarmouth Pleasure Beach: General Discussion

Sam

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Great Yarmouth Mercury said:
Albert Jones wins Great Yarmouth’s large casino licence
Friday, April 27, 2012

Plans to create hundreds of jobs in Great Yarmouth moved a step closer today after local businessman Albert Jones was victorious in his five-year battle for the town’s large casino licence.

Mr Jones, who is the managing director of Pleasure and Leisure Corporation, which owns the town’s Pleasure Beach, dedicated the successful bid to his late father, Jimmy, who died in March.

Great Yarmouth borough council licensing committee spent more than four hours considering applications from Mr Jones and Palace Bingo managing director, Patrick Duffy, before awarding the licence to Pleasure and Leisure.

The vision of the new casino complex, which is called The Edge, which will be built next to the outer harbour and will see an investment of more than £35m. Planning permission has been granted.

Mr Jones said: “Pleasure and Leisure Corporation are delighted to have won the casino licence after more than 10 years of hard work.

“I would like to dedicate this success to my late father Jimmy who gave so much support throughout the long drawn out procedure. My thanks also to Karen Hawes of Hawes Price Ltd for her tireless efforts in helping to secure the licence.

“We hope that this will be the start of major investment in Great Yarmouth, create hundreds of full and part-time jobs and boost the local economy. If all goes to plan work should start on site before the end of the year.”

Each bid was judged on a point-based criteria including the impact on regeneration and job creation to any negative effects on problem gambling. The detailed scoring saw Pleasure and Leisure being awarded 2,200 points and Palatial scooping 2,042 points and it is understood the panel followed procedures adopted in Newham, in East London, which decided its large casino operator last year.

Both candidates submitted proposals for 24 hour casinos in the town.

It was announced in 2007 that Yarmouth would be one of only eight locations nationally to have a new-style large casino.

Early interest from a number of companies died during the recession and the battle for the prized licence became a two horse race.

Mr Duffy planned to build a casino “30 to 40pc the size of London’s O2 arena” on the site of his business, Palace Bingo, in Church Plain. His vision of the 3,000 sq ft complex included a casino, arena, multi-screen cinema, a hotel, shops and restaurants.

Chairman of the licensing committee, George Jermany, said: “It was a straightforward, unanimous decision. It was reached fairly. It’s good for the town and if you look at the government criteria for casinos, the first priority was that it must be beneficial to the town.

“It will be open all year round so employment will be improved. They will also use local suppliers so it will boost employment and that is what we need in Great Yarmouth.”

According to CF's Martyn B, it'll include "2 hotels, cinema, large casino, restaurants and a bowling alley" and will be located alongside the Pleasure Beach. :)
 
£35 million casino investment at Great Yarmouth Pleasure Beach

It'll be located next door on a huge strip of land... It's a bit out of the way though so will be interesting to see if it's popular OR if it will close the other cinema and 2 other casinos in the town.

I just pray that it will encourage development of the Pleasure Beach as its a right dump.
 
Re: £35 million casino investment at Great Yarmouth Pleasure Beach

I would think that in this climate I would see completion being a hefty delay. I was surprised this Blackpool-scale project was accepted.

Anyone know a rough opening date soI can go when I'm old enough? Get a excuse to pop down there?

Also I'm pretty sure there are only a few locations for big casino's left now as a Manchester and Didsbury ones were also rejected. I'm sure it will be good for business though.
 
Re: £35 million casino investment at Great Yarmouth Pleasure Beach

I always pop down in the Summer so this is great news!

I do hope they pump some money into pleasure beach though, The woodie is the only decent ride there.
 
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Yes the Coaster is really the only decent ride at the PB. It would be nice if they can do something good with that area and breath a bit of new life in to it.
 
Re: £35 million casino investment at Great Yarmouth Pleasure Beach

The site for this is on a piece of land to the rear of the Pleasure Beach, and there has been a billboard up outside there advertising it for at least 5 years. I used to work for Palace and they planned to expand their current casino in the middle of town, without anything else. I'm glad Albert finally got it, he's a nice guy and the owner of Palace is a penny pinching moron, so it may see some good development in a dying seaside town.

However, to be honest, I don't think Yarmouth has enough left in the tourism trade to accommodate this, a new bowling alley opened on the Wellington pier a couple of years ago, and is always dead, and considering 3/4 of the people in GY are on the dole the casino wouldn't make much revenue from them! However, the hotels in Yarmouth are absolutely dire and a half decent cinema would be more than welcome as the current one is shocking.

Also - Here is the original planning document :D

http://www.great-yarmouth.gov.uk/prelim ... t-fv-3.pdf
 
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It's a shame the Casino is in a bad location - it is literally a dead end and industrial estate after the Pleasure Beach heading further South. The Roller Coaster and Mulan (Caterpillar flat) are classics at the park, however it's a shame the space isn't used for more permanent rides seeing as the park is quite thin width-wise.
 
Re: £35 million casino investment at Great Yarmouth Pleasure Beach

The park actually owns a lot of land to the front as well, at the moment it's home to segway racing and a mini golf course which looks like it's from the 70's. If they wanted to expand they could in that direction, but the park doesn't have the money for it - considering their last addition was an awful cheap 12 seat generic 4D cinema and a Mini Miami :(

Also, the whole of GY's seafront is either sand or already taken up, it's only a mile long and the only other proposed location was the site of the Marina Centre if it was going to be demolished, but that has also been refurbished and will be staying for the forseeable future. There is literally no other closer space along the seafront.
 
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Spotted by Martyn B on CF. :)

The very last sentence is the one you want to be looking at!

Great Yarmouth Mercury said:
£25m scheme to give Great Yarmouth The Edge

On a bleak morning after Christmas the seafront at Great Yarmouth is deserted and there is an almost melancholy silence within the walls of the Pleasure Beach.

The snaking body of the giant rollercoaster has long since gone into hibernation and its grumbling roar and shrieks will not be heard again until the end of March.

But on a cold, drizzly day when it is almost impossible to imagine the summer time appeal of the resort, Pleasure Beach owner Albert Jones unveiled his bold vision to attract visitors to the park 52 weekends a year.

Providing a sustainable future for the Pleasure Beach, nurtured by his grandfather and father before him, is clearly what has driven him along the long and winding road to bring a large casino to the resort.

And the seemingly interminable negotiations with the borough council are poised to end in the new year with the signing of an agreement that will finally hand him the licence to build the only large casino on the east coast.

Rides are already being moved on the southern end of the Pleasure Beach to clear ground for the £25m scheme, to be called The Edge, which will accommodate a seven-screen Odeon cinema, five national chain restaurants and a 120-room budget hotel as well as the new-style casino –one of only eight to be allowed across Britain.

The landmark final agreement will mean Mr Jones and his development consultants Hawes Price can, in his words, “press ahead with 100pc effort”.

He aims to see builders move on to the site – also taking in derelict land to the south of the Pleasure Beach – in October.

Mr Jones revealed his company, Pleasure and Leisure Corporation, had already invested more than £1m in the project since the vision of Las Vegas-style gambling was first raised by the Labour government nearly 10 years ago.

However, despite the delays – and he remains convinced that faster work by the council could have given Yarmouth the first large casino in the country and not Newham – he is confident his investment is not the gamble some other local businessmen think it is.

Despite the recession, which has seen the original £35m scheme scaled down slightly, he believes investors will see the potential of the project.

He said: “The signs are that operators do want to come here. They believe Yarmouth will move forward and they are encouraged to see improvements to the seafront and road schemes like the final A11 dualling.”

The casino would attract visitors from at least a two-hour drive away and it would also develop the market for long weekends.

He said: “We are already signed up with Odeon and we have interest and offers from national chains of restaurants and prospective hotel developers.”

Confident that partners will quickly be sorted out for each of the elements, he said: “One of the restaurant groups said they are like sheep – once one goes the rest will follow.”

Mr Jones confirmed that the licence for the casino would be held in his name, but they were negotiating with several interested partners.

He said: “The large casino allows you to bring in the right mix of gaming with high stakes, but it is not just about gaming, it will be the whole experience. It will be somewhere people can come and eat and listen to live music.

“The whole idea is to attract people from a wider area. The nearest other large casino, when it is built, will be in Milton Keynes.”

His passionate aim is to reverse the leisure market drain away from Yarmouth to Norwich.

“We want people to stay in Yarmouth and go to the pictures or out for a meal here,” he said.

“At the moment Norwich is busy when it is quiet here. People even go from Yarmouth to nightclubs in Norwich, when the reverse used to be the case.”

He believes the casino will create opportunities for other seafront operators to improve their outlook, in the same way it is enabling him to invest in the Pleasure Beach and give a new lease of life to a park that opened in 1909.

His vision is to replace the park’s log flume lake with a large indoor attraction – and his aim is to see it ready in time for Easter 2015, eight months ahead of The Edge opening its doors.

He said: “I want to provide attractions not currently on offer in Yarmouth, including a Go Ape-style rope-climbing adventure course.

“I am also looking at a smaller version of what is at Thursford, with a museum – possibly displaying some antique rides – and a Christmas show.

“I see it being a flexible space where we could run some of our outdoor attractions during the winter. It could also be themed to create a winter wonderland at Christmas.”

He said despite still attracting one million visitors a year change was vital to ensure a secure future for the Pleasure Beach – three washout bank holidays this season had left the park relying on subsidy and the last healthy season was 2009-10.

He said: “We’ll never be open 52 weeks a year, but the indoor centre should allow part of the Pleasure Beach to be open 52 weekends a year.”

He hoped they would be able to add 25 to 30 full-time staff to their existing 40 full-timers and 100 part-timers.

When The Edge opens, in time for Christmas 2015 if everything goes to schedule, he sees the complex creating a minimum of 400 extra jobs.

In the meantime, his investment in the Pleasure Beach is beginning in time for next season with a new £300,000 spinning rollercoaster.

Given the very cheap price and lack of building time, are we pretty certain that this is Whirlwind from Camelot? :)

Other points of interest:
  • Go Ape-style adventure course
  • "large indoor attraction" for 2015
  • Antique ride museum
 
Holy crap I might faint if a mildly decent ride is installed at GYPB! It's so sorely in need of investment... It's a really dire park.

I'm actually excited!


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If it is Whirlwind and it's literally just reassembled there it will look tatty as hell, so perhaps not out of place. Can't seen £300,000 including purchase, disassemble, transport, assembly AND a paint job though...unless Camelot are really very desperate, which I guess they could be.
 
Any investment into the Pleasure Beach at Great Yarmouth is joyous news, to be honest. The place has absolute bags of potential, and has a certain charm to it despite having been run near enough into the ground over recent years. I think the only addition over the past five seasons has been Robin Hood 4D - to be described as low budget at best.

The one thing that the park does lack is a decent steel coaster, so a Spinner would make for an excellent addition to the line-up. In fairness PBGY has one of the best selections of flat rides in the UK, a classic wooden coaster and ghost train, a reasonable Log Flume and pleasant atmosphere during high season. A new coaster, and the £35m Casino to follow, will hopefully help to restore the place to some kind of glory - Gt. Yarmouth certainly needs the boost. :p
 
I wouldn't be so sure about the Log Flume.....apparently it's either due to be removed, or has already gone!
 
It was still there when I last visited (very late Summer) but that article does imply it'll be leaving.

It'd be a bad move in my opinion as it's a fairly decent ride and there is another similarly sized piece of land right next to it that's been in a state of uncertainty for longer than I can remember. I'm not sure what's on it at the moment but according to Google Maps it was empty earlier this year.
 
I dunno.... the Log Flume isn't very popular (probably due to the sewage water) and it probably costs a lot to run.

Nothing that has been put outside of the main park has been popular (Sky Coaster, Ejector Seat, Wheel, Flume etc), and now they've put that fence up all around the gardens, I think they should get rid of the main entrance to the main park area (opposite Flume) so the whole place can feel like one proper amusement park.

But essentially, park's (especially this size) need Log Flume style attractions, as they're usually very popular. I'm sure if they made it look good and sorted out the water issue it would be a very popular ride again.
 
Thought I would resurrect this thread to bring some typical UK deluded small theme park news!

At the start of the month, GYPB announced that they had news regarding a major new attraction. Woooo, exciting! Well, until they announce that it is going to be this:

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But it gets worse. I've never been but apparently they operate a wristband system and this new big wheel is going to be excluded from that. You will have to pay an extra £5 per person to ride this.

These small parks really don't help themselves! Hype a major attraction then it turns out to be an upcharged big wheel.

:)
 
I will never understand this. At what point did ferris wheels become a major upcharge attraction? They aren't the only place, Winter Wonderland requires you to pre book a ticket, and their wheel isn't even the tallest attraction at the fair. I blame the London Eye for suddenly making them "cool". :/
 
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