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PS4 or Xbox One

Should of put Xbox live probably wont be as good as PS+ instead. :)

But from my experiences of online on both current gen consoles, I found PSN a lot better than Xbox live. Had massive problems setting live up and didn't enjoy using it. But that will probably be less of a problem on Xbone tbh.

But from what I've heard PS+ will be Xbox live but you get free games every month.
 
When Xbox Live charges you and then puts up adverts on the product you are paying for is a bit of a kick in the teeth ;)
 
Part of me is wondering, how long before they send out a forced update to all 360 consoles that self destructs them, to force us to buy Spy boxes?
 
Ermmm I don't know what's worse the BBC late 80's peado scandal or Microsoft filming children
 
It could be argued that had the Kinect flopped on the 360, it probably wouldn't be forced upon users of the Xbone. So all you people who were stupid enough to buy a spy box and willingly set it up in your home... this is your fault.
 
the Kinect and move came in the motion gimmick phase, so everyone who bought one with the thought... Oooo I would use that a lot... never uses it again, with the occasion of the drunken party game.

Microsoft has improved it. So everyone who is saying I'm halting the progression of technology, I do not want some gimmicky menu screen, I do not want to talk to my TV, while all this is great technology, its useless once you get over the initial gimmick and find out using a controller to select things on a menu is far easier, and makes you look like less of an idiot.

I don't want a Kinect, its annoying that the package it in, forcing you to spend £100 more for something I don't want.

Motion control wise I would buy a razor hydra and only once I've bought an occulus rift. ;)
 
Just done some digging into a more detail on the hardware for both consoles. Some of this you may know, some you may not, interesting non the less. Being a programmer myself, I found some of this interesting from a developer perspective.

Both consoles share a very similar Accelerated Processing Unit, which consists of CPU and GPU processors on the same chip.

The CPU's on both consoles APU's are based on the AMD Jaguar line of processors, both will also have 8 cores, reliable rumours say that the XBone's CPU will run at 1.6ghz, I would expect the same for the PS3 CPU also.

What is pretty much confirmed though, is that the XBone's GPU is based on a AMD Radeon HD 7790. While the PS4's is based on the faster AMD Radeon HD 7870.

Both systems also use 8GB of unified RAM, unified meaning that this memory is shared between both the CPU and GPU, which makes sense from a performance perspective given that the central and graphics processors are shared on the same chip.

GDDR3 for XBone which according to developers will deliver 68GB/s bandwith between the CPU, GPU and memory. But the GPU also has a 32MB block of local SRAM with 102GB/s bandwith between itself and this memory.

GDDR5 for PS4 which will apparently deliver 176GB/s bandwith between the systems vital components. It may seem like much more bandwidth but as I mentioned earlier the XBone mostly ameliorates this difference with 32MB of high-speed SRAM on the GPU.

The bottom line is that the PS4 with its faster graphics processor and one single big block of high speed memory should deliver slightly faster performance and slightly better looking graphics, for £100 cheaper too. But they are still very very similar in performance.



No doubt that a modern PC will stomp all over both consoles in terms of raw computational power. The current gen Intel quad core I7 processors are roughly twice as fast as the 8 core AMD Jaguars that are seen in these consoles, in terms of raw computational power. As for graphics cards, the latest graphics cards are absolutely miles ahead of what's going to be in these consoles.
 
Why can't we just have games any more?

Why does it have to have all this voice, motion, internet, facebook, social crap on it? It just saps the fun out of it, makes it all serious. It's a toy, it should be treated as such, I can't deal with all the pretensions the industry has.

I just want to have fun!
 
While I agree in extent considering they are forcing you to use the kinect, I see no problem with it being optional, Kinect and the wii are great at party games and drunken tomfoolery... I just wish Microsoft knew that's all they are for...

I hate facebook stuff though... great another way for the annoying people on my facebook wall to spam their daily details and routine no one cares about.... sighhhh... but I hate that because facebook is getting more and more irritating, I can't blame the console devs for wanting a slice of that pie, it's great marketing.
 
Kinect works well for dance / workout games. But that's about it. For 99% of games, a good old fashioned controler is still the best option. (Music games being the only exception I can think of. But they seem to have been phased out now :( )
 
Nah for 65% of games, keyboard and mouse is best option, 30% controller best option 4% specialised controller (guitar hero ext.) 1% motion controllers.

That sound generous? ;)
 
Sticking with my PC. I like gaming but I much prefer the indie type games than the full price titles. I've only played Papers Please for the past week anyway :p
 
Pre-ordered my xbox one nearly a month ago now, then just after I get told I'm getting a free digital copy of fifa 14, WIN. Don't get me wrong I was tempted by the PS4 but for me the Xbox one offered more, skype being a big one meaning that my wife can sit on the sofa and skype me without having a laptop of device to balance while she it talking to me while I'm away. Also I do like the launch line up for Xbox, I just hope that GTA5 will be coming to it sooner rather than later.
 
Pre ordered my PS4 months ago. Now just over 2 weeks before I get it :D
 
Still getting a PS4- Although I didn't have the money for launch so Christmas it is! It's only a couple of weeks later so it doesn't bother me.
 
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