Discussion in 'EuropaStreet Discussion' started by AstroDan, 8th Jul 2013.
$50m a mile? Why on earth does it cost so much? Is the track built from solid gold?
Best guess I can think of is the support beams. The track has to support a heavy train and the supports have to hold the trains and the heavy track, so they have to be chunky enough to hold it and foundationed(?) enough to support it!
That's serious money.
Dynamic Attractions (yes them again) have done work with Monorails, I guess it's more like a proper transport system, if you consider a mile of coaster track. Think about The Smiler, it only has small trains, really some pretty basic electronics (relatively speaking) and the supports can be, well, look at it
A monorail is way more substantial and a proper mode of public transportation. 30 odd million quid a mile? Does seem a lot but I can understand why taken in context I think.
Mack can build small Monorails themselves. But I doubt it would suit this purpose.
It would be a lot cheaper if they could build as much as possible side by side so one set of supports holds the outbound and return track, or use a switch track and operate the water park link as a shuttle service.
Realistically a monorail extension isn't feasible though, it would cost way too much when all they really need is one bus going back and forth.
Think they'd need more than one bus, given the attendance of the place...
But not everyone will be moving between the sites, the main link will need to be between the existing hotels and the water park so a bus will be fine
Many people will park directly at the Waterpark
A few things about the waterpark following on from an interview with Roland Mack:
How far the project has progressed?
Mack: We are all doing well, through the detailed planning and the process. If there are no major problems, we expect the building permit by the end of this, early next year. Then we decide when to start with the construction work. During the winter season in 2018 would be the earliest date.
If the water park built in one piece or expand it gradually?
Mack: We build it in one piece through, but he will be expanded in all directions - both in indoor and in Outdorfläche and hotels. We start with a hotel complex, two more locations would be possible. Everything is designed very intelligent. The total area is 34 acres, about one-third will be built in the first step.
The water park is the largest investment in the 40-year history of the park. Prise the own power?
Mack: Yes. But funding is not a problem, we have the confidence of the banks. To limit the risks, we will remain in the initial stage in the low hundreds of millions. Much of the money is there in the infrastructure - in roads, parking lots, in the water supply and sanitation.
You will need a lot of energy. How should the site be powered?
Mack: Energy is the cost factor per se in this project. So it looks like so far, we are essentially working with gas-fired cogeneration plants. We have performed tests and can use them optimally.
Not the best translation in the world from Google it doesn't seem but you get the idea. Not sure if he means construction would start in the winter season of 2018 at the earliest or whether that is the earliest opening date. Either way seems like it is a bit further off than we expected.
In the low hundreds of millions.
The current plan for the water park, revealed at a recent meeting:
Plenty of room for expansion I guess, can't help but think they should've perhaps just ditched the outdoor bit ready for future expansion though? Seems really small on that front!
Unfortunately i'm way behind on the discussion of this thing, whereabouts is the water park complex planned to be located in the grand scheme of things?
My post might answer your question.
New information re: water park
- Confirmation of a 2018 opening date
- Confirmation of a phase 1 budget of €140m (£104m)
- 12,000 square metre indoor area (I reckon this is about 5x the size of Alton Towers Waterpark) + smaller outdoor area
- Sauna and spa
- 300 room hotel (similar number of rooms to Bell Rock)
- Initial capacity of 5,000 guests. Long term increase to 8,000 guests.
- 10 year development plan from opening to increase size and attractions
Those are some impressive spec's, I reckon a meet will be in order for when it opens
A new visual of the water park and hotel area taken from the Winter Season Press Conference that EuropaStreet have been at:
I assume the big green bit at the bottom is for when they expand the outdoor section?
It pretty much matches the overview posted on 26th April.
I am sure this will break ground after New Year.
Here is a more detailed look at the design of the new hotel, taken from last Thursday's press conference. Credit to EPFans.info:
Certainly going to look very imposing! I reckon some sort of Scandinavian theme is definitely on the cards with that.
The first details of the new waterpark are apparently going to be released on July 19th with construction beginning in late summer.
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