Nemesis: General Discussion

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  1. skyscraper

    skyscraper TowersStreet Member

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    Plus money is worth a lot less these days. Nemesis cost £10 million in 1994, and that sum would be a lot bigger in today's money.
     
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  2. Plastic Person

    Plastic Person TowersStreet Member

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    I typically try and navigate nostalgia with great caution. Nonetheless, I have to admit, I find the idea of Alton Towers without Nemesis to be basically inconceivable.
     
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    John TowersStreet Member

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    The actual ride hardware was only a fraction of that cost though so there'd be some (relative) savings. They wouldn't have to dig the pit again for one thing
     
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    If there was any ride I think Merlin would stump up the cash to entirely re-track I think it would be Nemesis. Not to say it would happen, just more likely to happen than other rides. The exception to the rule lets say.

    The apparent personal connection it has with Nick Varney may well help matters too.
     
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    skyscraper TowersStreet Member

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    Yeah because Nemmy is essentially his child tbf :p
     
  6. Mikw

    Mikw TowersStreet Member

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    I love Nemesis to bits, but i think some of it's problem is where it is.

    I mean, you've got the two most popular rides (Wicker Man and The Smiler) on either side of the lake not far from the Park Entrance. Forbidden Vallet is quite a trek, on some visits to the park i've not even been to that bit of the park, even though i know where it is. Some newbies may never get past the central part of the park.
     
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  7. OilyWater

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    Translation: Nemesis is still a good ride
     
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    IDB TowersStreet Member

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    Pretty much walk-on all day today and even better in the dark.
     
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    Know your history!
    Back in the day...Corkscrew, Oblivion and Nemesis spread the massive crowds right across the park.
     
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    Mikw TowersStreet Member

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    Yeah, used to go as a kid, I know my history thank you very much. Nemesis is quite a trek away from the main entrance
     
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    Nope. Money is worth alot less these days, hence why it costs more money to buy the same thing. Inflation for ya.
     
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    I meant less, just fixed my OP :oops:
     
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    I don't believe re-marketing Nemesis would be a huge issue. Keep it closed for 1-2 seasons for the refurb, give the area and theming a good clean/fix, add some new theming, rename it 'Nemesis: Reborn' (or something along those lines). If really desirable add some gimmick like backwards trains. Make a huge fuss of it being 'NEW FOR [inset year here]' and job done.

    It would be cheaper than adding a new coaster entirely and if any ride at Towers would be likely to get such a huge refurbishment, it's Nemesis.

    It's not like Towers have ever repainted/refurbished/rethemed rides and advertised them as new. Admittedly what we're discussing would be at a larger scale, however I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility.
     
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    Sisemen. New for 2025
    Sisemen, new for 2025.
     
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    Nemesis Inferno: Hydro kind of has a ring to it.
     
  16. Danny

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    Still the better Nemesis. New for 2024. Now with 50% less station roof.
     
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    All these ideas sound confusing and awful! And when they tried similar gimmicks with VR on Air and backwards on The Swarm they failed badly.

    I never understand why Nemesis gets discussed as if its about to die every year anyway, there’s almost no suggestion of that happening
     
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    The 2 main problems I'm lead to believe are the supports around the loop (which they replaced at least one of a few years back) and the trains. Can't see it being an issue getting replacement trains, B&M have the plans so it's how much Towers would pay for a pair of new trains.
     
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    Anyone that thinks that the trains on Nemesis are made up entirely of components dating from 1994 is living in a dream world.

    Coaster trains are essentially a bunch of consumables bolted together.

     
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    For some of us, The Swarm backwards actually made the ride exciting. But agree about VR that was a gimmick just to give Towers a “worlds first” which fell away very quickly
     
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