2025: Toxicator - General Discussion

[GooseOnTheLoose]

They need to ban pens and stop selling pens to people, and remove them instantly if caught and fined to pay for damage

The sort of logic that is derived after sniffing Sharpies all day. Perhaps you do have a point.

Lol
But on a serious note - if they are bag searching on entrance why aren’t they questioning why people carry marker pens?

Because absolutely none of the graffiti shown in that photo was actually made by a pen. It's carved / scratched into the wall with stones, bits of wood or other erroneous debris.

 

[Jb85]

The sort of logic that is derived after sniffing Sharpies all day. Perhaps you do have a point.

Because absolutely none of the graffiti shown in that photo was actually made by a pen. It's carved / scratched into the wall with stones, bits of wood or other erroneous debris.

True
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But other areas of the park involve ink

I say just shoot the arseholes
Think that’s frowned upon

 

[flyingguitar]

Because absolutely none of the graffiti shown in that photo was actually made by a pen. It's carved / scratched into the wall with stones, bits of wood or other erroneous debris.

I would guess it is probably more likely keys, not really like you can take peoples keys away as... well they need that to get back

 

[Jb85]

I don’t buy the logic of people are board so they vandalise

Is this the state of this country?

 

[Bowser]

I don’t buy the logic of people are board so they vandalise

Is this the state of this country?

I would suggest often more frustrated than bored.

People are easily lead too, once they’ve seen one person do it others will follow suit.

There’s also quite a culture of disrespect and disregard for others unfortunately.

 

[Jb85]

I would suggest often more frustrated than bored.

People are easily lead too, once they’ve seen one person do it others will follow suit.

There’s also quite a culture of disrespect and disregard for others unfortunately.

Tell me about it

Derailing the thread somewhat but I’m often harsh on my elder children - pulling them up on all sorts their friends seem to get away with. Cannot stand lack of respect. It cost nothing to be a decent person

 

[James]

Grafitti is not a new concept in theme parks. Guests have done it in the past, do it now, and will continue to do it in the future. It's more about how Towers/Merlin/other parks can put deterrents in place, punish those who are caught and keep on top of upkeep so areas always look fresh.

As said, easily scratched concrete walls next to a standstill queue are poor design. This does not excuse individuals from vandalising the place, but it does not help matters either.

 

[MaxPower]

Oblivion queue tunnel was always a hot-spot for vandalism, even back in the 90's and the 00's.

They really should make these things harder to vandalise or make them out of reach as it's always been a thing.

 

[Hid]

Oblivion queue tunnel was always a hot-spot for vandalism, even back in the 90's and the 00's.

They really should make these things harder to vandalise or make them out of reach as it's always been a thing.

Curse of Alton Manor and Hex shows you how to prevent people vandalising the walls by making it intresting

 

[Poisson]

Repaint the wall, then metal mesh over it. Can easily be blended and stops the scratching

 

[Smiley]

Couple of ideas:
1. Install motion-sensitive cameras - make it obvious they are tracking motion. (They don't have be recording, just a deterrent)
2. Install a sign that anyone committing vandalism with be removed from the park and have a permaban at all parks
3. Enforce it for 5 people - social media will be full of it

Theme parks can make their own rules, and I'm sure no teen wants to be excluded from "years" of visits with friends just for a bit of random graffiti.

 

[flyingguitar]

Curse of Alton Manor and Hex shows you how to prevent people vandalising the walls by making it intresting

you can't reach the theming in Alton manor or hex

 

[GooseOnTheLoose]

you can't reach the theming in Alton manor or hex

Yet more evidence of the damage Sniffing Sharpies causes. BAN THE PENS!

 

[Dave]

Curse of Alton Manor and Hex shows you how to prevent people vandalising the walls by making it intresting

Hex doesn’t let you get near theming, that’s why the fence is down the middle of the armoury rather than up against the wall.

Curse the queue moves too quick once you are in the house.

Neither have anything to do with interest, Wardley and his team just knew how to deal with the guests who where just as happy to graffiti in 1992 to 2000 as they are now.

 

[Ash]

Poor Toxicator, only been open a little more than a month and the queue line looks like it’s been open for years. Could do with some Perspex screens.

Naive design in the extreme.

Wonder what contractor they took get in too put it right?!…

Agree at this point perspex screens are the best option as they can be swapped out as I assume it’s too narrow for railings.

But alas Leek signs awaits…

 

[LF22]

I noticed so much graffiti on the walls in queue lines at Parc Asterix. We wondered if it was theming but I noticed it all stopped at head height! It is such a shame that it’s been destroyed so quickly!

 

[Benzin]

This isn't just a problem in the UK. Pretty much a case in every park around the world.

And once one person does it the rest usually follow. The Toxicator queue lines looks badly designed anyway (hence the sudden need for splash guards).

But guess there's little else going terribly wrong at the parks atm which is why minds are going on at this. Some of it reads like a Daily Mail comments section.

 

[sock]

This isn't just a problem in the UK. Pretty much a case in every park around the world.

And once one person does it the rest usually follow. The Toxicator queue lines looks badly designed anyway (hence the sudden need for splash guards).

Yeah I remember learning about this in school, I think it's called the broken window theory? That if there's one broken window people will feel safe breaking another, just like with graffiti/littering.

 

[Smiley]

Yeah I remember learning about this in school, I think it's called the broken window theory? That if there's one broken window people will feel safe breaking another, just like with graffiti/littering.

Indeed - based on New York experiment I think. In the UK Bobbies used to give you a "clip round the ear". Basically it needs nipping in the bud, and I think a threat of a permaban would do just that - it risks social exclusion from your group.

 

[Bowser]

I think a threat of a permaban would do just that - it risks social exclusion from your group.

I’m not sure how Alton Towers could realistically ban someone from returning.