[🌎 Universal GB] Planning, Transport and Infrastructure

[rob666]

With the forecast planning law changes, you can expect housing to be built wherever there is a suitable, economic plot.
So I can see them getting planning for houses right next to a theme park, quickly and easily.
Like the flats built right up to the edge of the Beach in the sixties, right across the road from the Streak.
And Drayton has houses right next door too.

 

[jon81uk]

Can I just say if they were to build these houses I for one would be happy to buy one.

With the forecast planning law changes, you can expect housing to be built wherever there is a suitable, economic plot.
So I can see them getting planning for houses right next to a theme park, quickly and easily.
Like the flats built right up to the edge of the Beach in the sixties, right across the road from the Streak.
And Drayton has houses right next door too.

There is a lot of housing being built a few miles away already, hence the need for the new rail station

 

[tayspru]

Won’t they need affordable housing near to the site anyway for the inevitably minimum wage army of team members to live in?

 

[BarryZola]

Housing around there won't be affordable for people on minimum wage. Only way they'll do that is if it's subsidised through benefits and/or social/council housing, or living with parents. Like pretty much most of the country really, apart from pockets here and there of ex-mining towns in the north etc.

 

[rob666]

Won’t they need affordable housing near to the site anyway for the inevitably minimum wage army of team members to live in?

It would be an excellent excuse to build a general small block of serviced flats as staff accommodation on the edge of the park though.

I heard several stories about the Cedar Point staff accommodation being completely restructured over time to minimise the party house syndrome...
Likewise the Beach have had issues with staff boarding houses.
Allegedly.

 

[Blackrock]

With the forecast planning law changes, you can expect housing to be built wherever there is a suitable, economic plot.
So I can see them getting planning for houses right next to a theme park, quickly and easily.
Like the flats built right up to the edge of the Beach in the sixties, right across the road from the Streak.
And Drayton has houses right next door too.

Surely once this has been rubber stamped the land around the site will instantly go up in value which then makes the proposition of building housing estates infinitely more expensive for the developers. Sure they could but how many people would want to pay a now premium price to live right next to a theme park.

 

[Danny]

The documents are live.

 

[KolonelKlink]

All the planning documents have gone online:

Request for planning permission: Entertainment Resort Complex, Bedford

Documents relating to the request for planning permission for an Entertainment Resort Complex and associated development in Bedford.

www.gov.uk

Spoiler alert: there’s virtually nothing about the content of the park as you’d expect.

 

[rob666]

Surely once this has been rubber stamped the land around the site will instantly go up in value which then makes the proposition of building housing estates infinitely more expensive for the developers. Sure they could but how many people would want to pay a now premium price to live right next to a theme park.

Depends if you have already purchased the land.

 

[Bert2theSpark]

Good news, no jumping spiders, so I think this might be okay.

 

[rob666]

I did the site with ddt last year in the dark, silly

 

[jon81uk]

Sure they could but how many people would want to pay a now premium price to live right next to a theme park.

Very few will actually want to live right next to a theme park.

Lots of traffic and noise issues, look at the case of the Ropers v Alton Towers.

 

[Blackrock]

Am I reading this right or could the rumours of a direct Eurostar service directly to the site be true?

Page 41 -

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/685ebd943e6b7941f4e00bbd/01_-_6.1.0_Planning_Statement.pdf#page38

That direct Eurostar purple line goes all the way to Bedford and there’s definitely no Eurostar service to Bedford atm.

 

[RoyalFool]

Some interesting stuff in there.

Tallest coaster element can dwarf hyperia, and their expected visitor numbers on day one are greater than the four biggest Merlin parks combined.

footprint is smaller than islands of adventure initially, but its proposed to become one of the top 10 parks globally within 20 years.

 

[Loakin]

Am I reading this right or could the rumours of a direct Eurostar service directly to the site be true?

Page 41 -

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/685ebd943e6b7941f4e00bbd/01_-_6.1.0_Planning_Statement.pdf#page38

That direct Eurostar purple line goes all the way to Bedford and there’s definitely no Eurostar service to Bedford atm.

While both serve St. Pancras, HS1 and Midland Mainline aren’t connected to each other so not sure how they’ll pull that off.

 

[dave___]

Am I reading this right or could the rumours of a direct Eurostar service directly to the site be true?

Page 41 -

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/685ebd943e6b7941f4e00bbd/01_-_6.1.0_Planning_Statement.pdf#page38

That direct Eurostar purple line goes all the way to Bedford and there’s definitely no Eurostar service to Bedford atm.

I assume the other "stop" on the map is Luton airport?

I imagine it's probably an oversight but I will need to wait for some influencers to funnel all this into chatgpt and summarise it for me.

One thing it does show is that it was always on the cards - WSP don't come cheap and it looks like they were engaging with the likes of the national grid and Cadent at least 12-18 months ago.

 

[BenTechy66]

Looks like the spike on the BTTF coaster (presumably the tallest element in the park) could be up to 115 meters (378ft) if these documents are to be believed!

 

[DiogoJ42]

Am I reading this right or could the rumours of a direct Eurostar service directly to the site be true?

Page 41 -

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/685ebd943e6b7941f4e00bbd/01_-_6.1.0_Planning_Statement.pdf#page38

That direct Eurostar purple line goes all the way to Bedford and there’s definitely no Eurostar service to Bedford atm.

Given that they have closed every "international" station bar St Pan, I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[Bowser]

The operating hours listed in the application are 07:00-23:00 7 days a week including bank holidays and up to 02:00 for special events including Halloween up to 60 days a year.

 

[Blackrock]

Given that they have closed every "international" station bar St Pan, I'll believe it when I see it.

Granted, but with competitors now wanting to run other services alongside Eurostar and with this park attracting 8+ million people it’s interesting to think about.

Could have direct services between DLP and UGB.