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Coasters that aren’t being replicated.

Bowser

Bowser

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Two spring to mind:

Fly at Phantasialand and Arthur at Europa.

These are by all accounts excellent coasters and also I believe the only ones of their kind. Why aren’t other parks buying these models?

How is it that this happens whilst other popular coaster types eg Nemesis and Oblivion get built all over the world?
 
Bowser said:
Two spring to mind:

Fly at Phantasialand and Arthur at Europa.

These are by all accounts excellent coasters and also I believe the only ones of their kind. Why aren’t other parks buying these models?

How is it that this happens whilst other popular coaster types eg Nemesis and Oblivion get built all over the world?
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There are a few Mack Suspended Powered Coasters around;

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To answer the question, there aren’t many Arthurs because it’s an expensive coaster. When you combine that with the fact that the ride system lends itself to a large dark ride section, it only increases the cost for a park.

With Fly, I expect again that it isn’t cheap. The fad for flying coasters has also been and gone, so there’s less GP appeal.
 
Don't think it's a surprise for the costs involved the only other Arthur rides are also themed to massive IPs.

Been claims with FLY that Phantasialand have a period of exclusivity due to them working with vekoma on the project. But again I think FLY is just that amazing it would put all but the biggest parks from investing in that sort of ride.

Think from what I've ridden you've got;

Lightning Run (Kentucky Kingdom) a chance rides Hyper GTX model, great coaster and affordable as well. Amazing its only the Mattel Parks that have ordered any in the decade its been in operation and there's no clue when the one in Arizona will actually open
 
I understand universal Orlando have had a couple of attractions designed using the Mack powered suspended system - one was one of the early concepts for a Harry Potter dark forest themed ride to replace Dragon Challenge- they obviously ultimately went with intamin for Hargrids instead. While they did use it in Bejing the ride system in Jurassic park. I could potentially still see Universal use it in a dark ride.

We know Vekoma are Disney’s coaster manufacture of choice for most projects I would like to see the flying coaster model used for the coaster that’s expected in villians land- however I have a feeling we won’t see something more family friendly.
 
The Smiler at Alton Towers, yes there's many infinity coasters around but Gerstlauer have this as a model they can sell as a clone (Infinity Coaster 1140).

I'm surprised a park in China hasn't done a Smiler clone yet like they did with the Intamin 10 Inversion Coasters. I'm surprised that it's not a gimmick the States have gone for.

www.gerstlauer-rides.de

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I would say this is because of reliability, the Smiler crash 10 years ago and potentially the appeal of having so many inversions not being as appealing for the general public.

In North America, there is no Intamin 10 Inversion coaster and the most a coaster has of inversions over there is 8 (from RCDB and the record holder is Steel Curtain and a rollercoaster in Guatemala) https://rcdb.com/rhr.htm?m=4&l=1

The question about US coasters and the reason why it hasn't done a 10 inversion coaster is a topic for it's own thread I'd say.
 
owenstreet7 said:
The Smiler at Alton Towers, yes there's many infinity coasters around but Gerstlauer have this as a model they can sell as a clone (Infinity Coaster 1140).

I'm surprised a park in China hasn't done a Smiler clone yet like they did with the Intamin 10 Inversion Coasters. I'm surprised that it's not a gimmick the States have gone for.

www.gerstlauer-rides.de

Infinity Coaster

www.gerstlauer-rides.de www.gerstlauer-rides.de

I would say this is because of reliability, the Smiler crash 10 years ago and potentially the appeal of having so many inversions not being as appealing for the general public.

In North America, there is no Intamin 10 Inversion coaster and the most a coaster has of inversions over there is 8 (from RCDB and the record holder is Steel Curtain and a rollercoaster in Guatemala) https://rcdb.com/rhr.htm?m=4&l=1

The question about US coasters and the reason why it hasn't done a 10 inversion coaster is a topic for it's own thread I'd say.
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Not sure how much validity these stories have but I’ve been told previously there were plans for both Wicker Man and The Smiler clones for different parks in China.

Supposedly a Chinese park (might have been the one with the Taron clone) enquired about a Wicker Man clone shortly after it opened, to which GCI were confused considering they had built it around Alton Towers terrain. To which the park responded that they’ll just recreate the terrain instead of GCI designing a similar layout at a lower overall cost. A Smiler clone would also be pretty weird because the terrain elevation also changes across the site too.
 
owenstreet7 said:
The Smiler at Alton Towers, yes there's many infinity coasters around but Gerstlauer have this as a model they can sell as a clone (Infinity Coaster 1140).

I'm surprised a park in China hasn't done a Smiler clone yet like they did with the Intamin 10 Inversion Coasters. I'm surprised that it's not a gimmick the States have gone for.
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Surely anyone building a 14 inversion coaster would be mad not to slip in a 15th, a small adjustment to take the marketing.
 
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