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What will be the result of the UK’s General Election?

  • Conservative Majority

    Votes: 3 2.5%

  • Conversative Biggest Party in Hung Parliament

    Votes: 2 1.7%

  • Labour Majority

    Votes: 87 72.5%

  • Labour Biggest Party in Hung Parliament

    Votes: 28 23.3%

  • Other Result (Please specify in your post)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    120
  • Poll closed .
The only things to look forward to with this Enoch Powell fantasist running the country are the excuses that'll come out for why people should be voting for him again at the next election.
 
Dobba said:
The only things to look forward to with this Enoch Powell fantasist running the country are the excuses that'll come out for why people should be voting for him again at the next election.
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It worries me that you under estimate the rhetoric of Enoch Powell.

I’m intermittently but regularly unimpressed with this government but today’s announcement is nowhere near the rhetoric of Powell, it doesn’t even come close to his closest acolyte in Farage….

still waiting the full details to be published but to my eyes they have done a big number on economic migration to satisfy the majority of people but haven’t made any real change to asylum (either positive or negative).

Genuinely at the moment (caveat being the full white paper hasn’t been scrutinised) the only big problem with what has been announced is the ending of visa’s for care workers.
 
Dave said:
It worries me that you under estimate the rhetoric of Enoch Powell.

I’m intermittently but regularly unimpressed with this government but today’s announcement is nowhere near the rhetoric of Powell, it doesn’t even come close to his closest acolyte in Farage….

still waiting the full details to be published but to my eyes they have done a big number on economic migration to satisfy the majority of people but haven’t made any real change to asylum (either positive or negative).

Genuinely at the moment (caveat being the full white paper hasn’t been scrutinised) the only big problem with what has been announced is the ending of visa’s for care workers.
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The only migrants in this country Enoch Powell seemed to have any time for were those working in health. Starmer can't even pretend to like having them in the country.

Island of strangers indeed.
 
Dobba said:
The only migrants in this country Enoch Powell seemed to have any time for were those working in health. Starmer can't even pretend to like having them in the country.

Island of strangers indeed.
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Yeah you clearly spend your time in some social media bubble that pushes an agenda because you responded with a soundbite not a fact.

What quotable distinct policy of Enoch Powell is the current government implementing?
 
I must be one of the few people that has been impressed with Starmer's handling of the government so far.

He has appeared like an adult on the world stage. Domestically he has taken some Tory-lite decisions but, again, is a vast improvement on them purely because he acts like an adult. After Liz Truss and Boris Johnson it's just nice to have somebody competent in charge again.

It reminds me of the Cameron-Clegg coalition at present. That period actually wasn't too bad.

Critics of the government either expected too much too soon (many of these have now defected to Reform, a worrying trend) due to a lack of understanding of the complexities of government or they expected lots of politically unpopular socialist policies. I think that it's sensible to avoid that given the threat of Reform. I liked Corbyn but he lost heavily for a reason.

On both the domestic and the world stage, Starmer often looks like the only adult in the room. It's a shame that more people don't see that.
 
Dave said:
What quotable distinct policy of Enoch Powell is the current government implementing?
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They aren't. The rhetoric and sound bite are quite the pastiche, however, and are shocking optics for a human rights lawyer elected on a ticket of positive change.

These are things that ought to be considered, when taking stock of the present situation.
 
Dave said:
Yeah you clearly spend your time in some social media bubble that pushes an agenda because you responded with a soundbite not a fact.

What quotable distinct policy of Enoch Powell is the current government implementing?
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You want me to name the policies of someone who was never leader of a political party?

Sure.
D4n said:
It reminds me of the Cameron-Clegg coalition at present. That period actually wasn't too bad.
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Austerity - "wasn't too bad"
 
Dobba said:
You want me to name the policies of someone who was never leader of a political party?

Sure.
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You are associating one person with another, I think you should provide examples of how they align.

Sure.

And as for @GooseOnTheLoose comment which I neglected to click the quote button. The rhetoric is curious for certain but it is not pastiche of Powell, the only part that comes close is the increase English language competency requirement as he was obsessed with (commonwealth) immigration not integrating.

The policy announced is 50% bad policy forced by politics and 50% probably ok policy (stopping companies using immigrant labour instead of investing in available workforce for example) but won’t actually reduce immigration numbers so won’t stop Farage.
 
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