Wicker Man - General Discussion - Part Two

Ethan

TS Member
For a wooden coaster Wicker man has always been considerably smooth. Even when it wasn't riding well at the end of last season, it was still nowhere near the roughness of national and dipper. Never understood why people even make the statement 'it was rough' when talking about a woodie though. They're not supposed to be a smooth comfortable experience. They're supposed to throw you everywhere and feel out of control
 

Dave

TS Founding Member
I don’t watch Shawns vlogs (nothing against the guy, he’s nice enough, I’m just not that interested in overly verbose theme park blogs, show me the POV or offride and keep quiet then I will watch). It would be churlish to say he hasn’t got insider knowledge but having worked on the TS team even insider knowledge can be convoluted and not always exactly accurate from time to time.

It’s probably having work done but it doesn’t mean it’s due to how rough it is, might just be structural.
 

Ethan

TS Member
I was getting extremely frustrated today by the pre show. Yes it's part of the experience but it's slowing operations down massively. It was back on 3 trains today and it was taking that long to get people into the station that they had to send one of the trains round half empty each time. I never noticed it effecting the throughput this much before covid. Perhaps I've become used to them absolutely hammering the trains out when the pre show wasn't on
 

Steve74

TS Member
I was getting extremely frustrated today by the pre show. Yes it's part of the experience but it's slowing operations down massively. It was back on 3 trains today and it was taking that long to get people into the station that they had to send one of the trains round half empty each time. I never noticed it effecting the throughput this much before Covid. Perhaps I've become used to them absolutely hammering the trains out when the pre show wasn't on
You've got to bear in mind that some of the ride hosts and ops this year may never have operated Wicker Man with the preshow running; it's only be switched on for a week or so so you have to let them get used to the timing of it all. It's almost the equivalent of the 2nd week of a new season for them if you look at it like that.

I'm getting really cheesed off with people saying its affecting throughput (not just on here but everywhere online). If it wasn't for Covid, it would never have been switched off and we wouldn't be having these discussions. I for one love the preshow; as many have said it improves the experience of the ride. And what's a couple of minutes extra wait time when you've probably been waiting 40-60 minutes anyway?

I went on Wicker Man 5 times on Friday and Saturday and not once did I think the Preshow affected the throughput. It's part of the queue, so accept it!

I'm surprised there's not a campaign on social media to scrap the preshows on Hex, afterall, they delay getting to the ride by about 10 minutes!! :p
 

Matt N

TS Member
Favourite Ride
Mako (SeaWorld Orlando)
When I timed the ride on 3 trains, the pre-show seemed to have little, if any, tangible effect on the throughput; the overall average was 985pph, and at one point, it hit as high as 1,089pph!
 

Jim

TS Member
Favourite Ride
Wicker Man (Row 1), Alton Towers
Rode it 3 times during the day on Fri and was always the last pair out the preshow (just our lazy style). Before we boarded the next group from the preshow had arrived and been sent to the bays ready for the following train.

Can't say if it was on 2 or 3 trains, but most likely 2.

What I did notice thou, was the queue line seemed to move quicker because you moved in big steps. Also that people seemed to be unable to get out of the "queue" mentality when reaching the bagging area which did cause hold-ups trying to get everyone bunched up into the preshow.
 

Steve74

TS Member
Also that people seemed to be unable to get out of the "queue" mentality when reaching the bagging area which did cause hold-ups trying to get everyone bunched up into the preshow.
It's because we're British and are too polite not to queue! :D

What would help (but could ruin the aesthetic of the preshow room and station) is if the exit door was a sliding one and not a normal opening one. The number of times it tries to close but can't because of people in the way of it is quite a few and that can hold up the next preshow starting.
 

Craig

TS Administrator
I've removed a number of posts which were in no way related to Wicker Man and yet another argument over personal opinions derailing things. Let's just remember to consider that your own opinion may not be reflective of everyone who visits the resort!

Anyway, back to Wicker Man discussion please!
 

Poisson

TS Member
Favourite Ride
The Giant Squid
It's because we're British and are too polite not to queue! :D

What would help (but could ruin the aesthetic of the preshow room and station) is if the exit door was a sliding one and not a normal opening one. The number of times it tries to close but can't because of people in the way of it is quite a few and that can hold up the next preshow starting.
A sliding door would be fine, just theme it like a normal door
 

Loui Richards

TS Member
Random Wicker Man question for anyone who knows more about block sections than me; out of interest, why is it that a train on Wicker Man has to hit a certain point in the layout before the train behind it can get dispatched, as opposed to being able to be dispatched as soon as the train in front clears the lift hill?

I assumed that it was able to dispatch as soon as the train in front cleared the lift hill, but I noticed the other day that the ride staff, although the train was ready, were waiting for the train in front to hit the brake run before dispatching the next train. Not because they didn’t want to dispatch it, but because the system wasn’t letting them (they were holding the button down for a good few seconds before the train dispatched). Admittedly, the ride was on 2 trains, which may have made a difference, but I thought it was interesting, to say the least, especially given that I was under the impression that the ride would be able to dispatch as soon as the lift hill was clear.

On 3, though, I’ve noticed that the ride tends to dispatch around when the train in front goes through the final wicker man pass through, at the very earliest.

Why is this? Is the train in front coming off of the lift hill too early to dispatch in real world conditions even if the train is ready (in Planet Coaster, trains seem to dispatch as soon as the block section ahead is clear and guests are loaded), or is it different?
when i rode it we hit the lift and the train in front was on the turn around point before doing the last big drop, the staff may have been trying to space out the trains in order to help with efficiency especially now the preshow is back
 

imanautie

TS Member
It's because we're British and are too polite not to queue! :D

What would help (but could ruin the aesthetic of the preshow room and station) is if the exit door was a sliding one and not a normal opening one. The number of times it tries to close but can't because of people in the way of it is quite a few and that can hold up the next preshow starting.
I consistently see people in the way of the 2nd sliding door at Black Mirror LABYRINTH, and that's with in theory 12 people in that section....

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Skyscraper

TS Member
Favourite Ride
Nemesis
I consistently see people in the way of the 2nd sliding door at Black Mirror LABYRINTH, and that's with in theory 12 people in that section....

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Yeah the issue with sliding doors is they aren't always visible when open.
 
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