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Thorpe Park 2017: DBGT: Rise of The Demon
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Dar
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This was posted on coasterforce:
EthC said:Very interesting article...
http://www.alva.org.uk/details.cfm?p=413&codeid=320805
Exclusive: Merlin creative director reveals new details about Derren Brown attraction coming to Thorpe Park in 2016
Paul Moreton, global creative director for Merlin Magic Making at Merlin Entertainments has exclusively revealed to Attractions Management new details about Derren Brown’s new ride at Thorpe Park, which will use a number of modern and traditional techniques to create an experience right from the mind of the master illusionist.
Touted as a ghost train reinvented for the 21st Century, the age-restricted Derren Brown’s Ghost Train will incorporate grand illusion, live action, next-generation technology, 4D special effects and physical transit to create an experience unlike any other.
“We’ve taken the ghost train as an inspiration,” said Moreton speaking exclusively to Attractions Management. “The thing we love about a good ghost train is creating that sense of being scared, but laughing at the same time. We’re trying to capture that element and we thought it was about time we took that standard, that Victorian product which has been around 200 years or so, and gave it a 21st century makeover. It’s Derren’s interpretation of that.”
Upon entering the 2,300sq m (25,000sq ft) warehouse encompassing the ride, guests will encounter a large disused Victorian warehouse, which in its centre will have a 20 metre (65 foot) -long, seven tonne Victorian train carriage suspended in mid air by iron chains.
Little detail has been revealed about what will actually take place within the attraction. What is known is the ride is designed to leave guests questioning where their perception ends and where reality begins.
“Like with Derren’s show, he doesn’t really want everyone to say what happens so they can experience it for themselves because the less you know, the more you will get out of it,” said Moreton.
“Just like Derren’s shows we’re playing with your mind, making you question what’s real and what’s not. When the ride ends, we want you to come away with a thought-provoking experience. Did that happen? Did that not happen? That is the new generation experience we are talking about and that’s what will make it very unique.”
Moreton revealed that virtual reality would be one of the elements used to create the illusions, using an HTC Vive headset within the train. He was keen to stress however that the attraction is not a VR experience.
It’s not the same as our launch of Glactica at Alton Towers last week,” he said. “We’re using that to enhance the experience but crucially it’s just one element of several which are all equally as important as each other.”
One of the attraction’s key elements, is that each rider will have a unique experience. On the 10-15 minute ride, there are 12 possible journeys to get to two alternate endings. Dependant on choices made, each individual rider will encounter a different path as they go through the experience.
“If you and I went on the attraction together, you would probably experience something different to what I did,” said Moreton. “You may come out and say ‘did that happen to you’ and I’ll respond ‘no this happened instead’.”
“I firmly believe that this kind of multi-sensory, mind blowing attraction represents a glimpse of what the future holds for theme parks the world over,” said Derren Brown.
“Akin to my shows, I ask that when you board the train, the secrets remain mine and yours to share and fear, and you don’t spoil the experience by telling others ahead of their visit.
“People should also note that this is not an experience for the faint hearted. But to ensure you are in the right frame of mind to take full advantage of the journey I will send you on, I refuse to reveal any further details past the doors of the carriage.”
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Derren brown posted this on facebook...
The fact that it says under Class DBGT as well as this insider sneek peek article, this surely must confirm that it is called Derren Brown: Ghost Train!
Scott
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Worst. Name. Ever.
Really intrigued by this whole concept though... Could be amazing.
nickhutson
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Well, it's not really the worst name ever (I think that goes to Rita). It's a play on the concept of a g host train.., and it must be about a train from the past - thus, the literal translation of a ghost train.
AstroDan
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I like the name Rita. It was ridiculous to start with but now I like the idea of a coaster with such a crazy name.
I am yet to be sold on Thorpe's new product, based on what I know. I just hope this doesn't turn into Sub Terra but on a grander scale.
I am yet to be sold on Thorpe's new product, based on what I know. I just hope this doesn't turn into Sub Terra but on a grander scale.
Rob
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Here is the concept image posted in the article for those that haven't seen it in the quote a few posts above:
How bizarre! If that is how it's going to look then it is a very unusual use of space, I can't quite work out what on earth would/could be going on.
I do like the idea of a take on a ghost train, will be interesting to see how they do that. Something tells me you might be wearing the VR headset during the ghost train ride as that will save on having to actually put in some theming!
How bizarre! If that is how it's going to look then it is a very unusual use of space, I can't quite work out what on earth would/could be going on.
I do like the idea of a take on a ghost train, will be interesting to see how they do that. Something tells me you might be wearing the VR headset during the ghost train ride as that will save on having to actually put in some theming!
This is worse than Rita. At least it was original (though you could argue too original). Literal translation or not, "ghost train" is so generic. The name makes me think of some traveling fair.
Dar
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What I'm getting from that article is that this is going to be one of those immersive tunnels, with some VR aspects. You're not really going to be moving very far and the carriage will be like a simulator.
The question on everybody's lips has to be: Did this get Air's left over VR headsets or vice versa?
The question on everybody's lips has to be: Did this get Air's left over VR headsets or vice versa?
AstroDan
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The thing is - with the rumours of £25m+ budgets on this thing... there must be something absolutely incredible somewhere in there. To put the figures rumoured for this into context, we're talking around 1/3 more than Arthur at Europa-Park.
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I think that's the idea. Victorians started the Carnival / Travelling fair.
I don't think it's bad at all I just wish it didn't have DB I front of it. Ghost Train is generic just like "Haunted House"
U
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Loved Carneskys Ghost Train at Blackpool,
just up the prom from the Pleasure Beach.
Victorian theme,
live actors,
use of "Pepper's ghost" reflective vanishing,
and the whole ride vanished (nearly) overnight this summer.
I think Derren might have had a trip to Blackpool you know.
just up the prom from the Pleasure Beach.
Victorian theme,
live actors,
use of "Pepper's ghost" reflective vanishing,
and the whole ride vanished (nearly) overnight this summer.
I think Derren might have had a trip to Blackpool you know.
So, does this mean that the big top was (like the sanctuary) part of the marketing of the ride? There have been circus themes on the website.
nickhutson
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Well it's the same illusion designer as Carnesky's....
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Maybe right. Exactly like they did with the sanctuary and the smiler. It's a clever way to market research.
Didn't experience the maze, but I can't see why not
a post a couple of pages ago:
Derren Brown tweeted this saying "Something new is brewing"
Which looks a lot like this
Both of which look like they are supposed to represent train track, as in London Underground.