Building a roller coaster better than the legendary god nemesis I suspectWhat do you think they've done to damage the heritage of the park?
Building a roller coaster better than the legendary god nemesis I suspectWhat do you think they've done to damage the heritage of the park?
Building a roller coaster better than the legendary god nemesis I suspect
I just logged on to answer @Drew Peacock's question, but this^, described far better than I would've done.Or :
- Abandoned buildings and food outlets
- Short sighted investments that are SBNO or deserted (Dungeons and Sub Terra)
- Poor theming quality throughout the park
- Poor attraction planning that leave standout features (ie “Big Bob” and the Marmalizer) being the only notable theming of new attractions
- Older theming not maintained
- Tiered park experiences based on if you can afford FT or exploit RAP
- Lack of long term vision for the park (Retrosquad are symptomatic of this due to a lack of permanent attractions not being replaced over the years)
But yeah this is obviously the thread to take a jab at people who prefer Nemesis over the Smiler
It's not criticism it's just banter haha I wasn't being serious when I said that. Why would I criticise those who love Nemesis when it is a legendary ride. No different to anyone saying that Nemesis craps on the smiler, which is certainly a common opinion. If anything the controversial opinion is preferring the smiler as Nemesis has always been the enthusiast communities general favouriteBut yeah this is obviously the thread to take a jab at people who prefer Nemesis over the Smiler
I completely agree. Nemmy will most likely be refurbed in a few seasons time (I hope, anyway), but I dread visiting Towers when she's closed for a whole season. Will definitely be worth the wait when it eventually happens though!I think Nemesis 100%. Sadly I'm not old enough to know for sure but from what I know Nemesis was the thing that really put towers on the map and ultimately had a huge influence on UK theme parks from then on. It was a level of intensity, themeing and backstory that just hadn't been seen in the UK before, and any rides following in the SW series (because we all have our favourites ) wouldn't exist without it. Also its longevity is just amazing, and we bring it up a lot but I just hope and pray Nemesis isn't leaving anytime soon.
On top of these challenges, Towers then spends the next 2 decades inflicting harm upon itself. It opens a plethora of attractions of much decreased quality, falls into a state of disrepair that it never recovers from, does a great deal of damage to it's original theme park heritage, slashes operational budgets and crashes a rollercoaster. Yet still, despite all this, it somehow still exists?
Sent from my VOG-L29 using Tapatalk
Not all enthusiasts think that and not all non enthusiasts think otherwise. Still you mention a good point, if you look at the attendances they have been rising back to pre crash levels, so the really low years the park have successfully gotten out of.Enthusiasts will lament that Merlin have, "run the park into the ground" but there has never been strong enough evidence to suggest that this is a view also held by the GP, who obviously consist of the high majority of visitors to the park.
Not all enthusiasts think that and not all non enthusiasts think otherwise. Still you mention a good point, if you look at the attendances they have been rising back to pre crash levels, so the really low years the park have successfully gotten out of.
But since Wicker Man, the recent pattern of investment is heading the same way as Thorpe and Chessington been doing for last 10 years, which are now losing numbers a lot. So the trend seems to suggest that Alton might go the same way if they carry on that route. Hope not.
Overall the park isn't as popular as 10 years ago or in the mid 90s when it was doing really well. So maybe overall public perception is just mixed now.
With the greatest of respect, I think some of what you've mentioned here is influenced by your own subjectivity, and as a result reads as a bit of an exaggeration. The theme park was never, even after 2015, in any serious danger of closing so I wouldn't say it's "incredible" or in anyway surprising that it still exists. Enthusiasts will lament that Merlin have, "run the park into the ground" but there has never been strong enough evidence to suggest that this is a view also held by the GP, who obviously consist of the high majority of visitors to the park.
The attractions over the past few decades have certainly not been as influential as the likes of Nemesis and Oblivion, but most of them have, in their own way, been largely very successful additions. Air, Th13teen, Smiler and Wicker Man (even Rita and Spinball) have all been popular with the GP, and opened to largely positive responses, and the visitor numbers pre crash have always been healthy. Plus CBeebies Land has been very successful for the young market, probably moreso than the Farm ever was.
Obviously, the crash was a huge issue for the park and it took a while to recover from, but let's be honest, the park has largely recovered. There haven't been mothballed rides since 2017, the visitor numbers (pre covid) were going back up, The Smiler is, despite everything, still hugely popular, as is the park. Merlin make stupid decisions, the park hours being a prime example, but sadly they can get away with it, as there will always be enough people that'll overlook it.
I think Nemesis 100%. Sadly I'm not old enough to know for sure but from what I know The Corkscrew was the thing that really put towers on the map and ultimately John Wardley had a huge influence on UK theme parks from then on. It was a level of intensity, themeing and backstory that just hadn't been seen in the UK before, and any rides following in the SW series wouldn't exist without him.
If I can make a tongue in cheek comment, Alton Towers’ finest achievement was the sound of the Corkscrew’s lift hill.
Well given he was already working for Tussauds (mainly on Chessington) it was kind of a given he would work on Alton Towers after Tussauds bought it.Picking up the phone, meeting and subsequently working with John Wardley is the greatest thing they ever did.
Well John is the main reason we have some absolutely class rides so good job they picked up the phonePicking up the phone, meeting and subsequently working with John Wardley is the greatest thing they ever did.