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Drones and Theme Parks

That channel has some of the worst VIBES I've had the misfortune of clicking on recently. More than one thousand videos and each one seems to be an hour (!) of arguing with an authority figure, but not in any sort of cool or meaningful or righteous way. The only positive thing I can say about it is that the emojis in the video titles reminded me of a much better channel, Mr. T's POV cooking
 
We've had one of these fly over work. No idea if they wanted to look at what they claimed they were (and actually do focus on in the video) or wanted a reaction. 4 of us on site at the time were drone pilots so if they wanted a reaction, they must have been disappointed when we shrugged and said okay. Seemed friendly enough, it's just an odd place to fly over.

With parks, as long as they're not flying over people who cannot leave the area in case of an emergency and aren't flying something heavy not in the proper distance, all's good. Might even see more operations when BVLOS ops are officially made easier to obtain.
 
Noticed whilst driving to the park today that every gate into ATR grounds now has a lovely "No Drones Permitted" sign. Including one right opposite where I took off to get shots of the Horizon site (oops). Leaves a tricky position as I don't want to piss anyone off but also they have no legal grounds to stop anyone.
 
reading the fourm I think drayton are in the right here tbh.
I havent watched the video (don't really want to give them the satisfaction of another view) but from what I have seen drayton called to police on someone flying a drone over their property.

for starters flying a drone near an opperating theme park is incredibly stupid and risks peoples lives, a done (it may seem light) can do a large amount of damage when you hit it at 40 - 60mph, the speeds are a bit faster, but look at what it can do to the wing of a plane:

From: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH0V7kp-xg0


from a legal perspective, it is quite a gray area, he could have broken the law it depends heavily on the drone was and how he was flying it.

if the drone was less than 250g he could have flown it near the theme park, it is illegal to fly over people who were not involved in flying the drone (such as crowds) as essentially the CAA want to make sure everyone knows that the drone is there, in case it falls on top of them.

it is also illegal to not be able to see the drone (if you are using drone goggles you must have a second person there watching the drone) as they want to prevent you from flying the drone into cables, trees, or if an emegency service flight (e.g medical hellicopeters) come by they may fly bellow the height limit, and thus you need to land your done if it comes by.

TBH, from the sound of it (I have also seen "auditor" videos else where) most of them will try to provoke a response, to get some good video content.

also it may be possible there is a no fly zone over drayton, but it could be implemented through local ordinances as they can ban drone flights over areas (for multiple reasons, such as nature conservation, public saftey etc) I am not sure how well it is documented, but if I was a theme park I would push for banning drone flights over my park for saftey.
 
flyingguitar said:
I havent watched the video
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This pretty much automatically disqualifies you from commenting.

Everything else you've mentioned has been discussed at length.
  1. His drone was under the legal weight limit, as the police verified.
  2. The weather conditions were suitable for flying.
  3. He checked that the park wasn't currently operating.
  4. He didn't fly into controlled airspace.
  5. He intended to take off and land on public property, which he'd checked before hand.
  6. He could keep line of sight with the drone at all points.
The guy is a tit, and I certainly don't condone or agree with the his antagonistic approach. I don't think he acted with good or genuine faith and intent, but he acted completely legally.

You'd know all of this, of course, had you watched the video.
 
GooseOnTheLoose said:
This pretty much automatically disqualifies you from commenting.

Everything else you've mentioned has been discussed at length.
  1. His drone was under the legal weight limit, as the police verified.
  2. The weather conditions were suitable for flying.
  3. He checked that the park wasn't currently operating.
  4. He didn't fly into controlled airspace.
  5. He intended to take off and land on public property, which he'd checked before hand.
  6. He could keep line of sight with the drone at all points.
The guy is a tit, and I certainly don't condone or agree with the his antagonistic approach. I don't think he acted with good or genuine faith and intent, but he acted completely legally.

You'd know all of this, of course, had you watched the video.
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I did skim through it before posting it and saw some boats moving and general movment and thought it was open (I am guessing it was a testing day then)
besides I said I though Dayton weren't in the wrong, the police was probably a bit far but not really that much when you consider how dangerous drones can be, I didn't say I thought he was doing something illegal, just it is very hard to tell if it is legal.

he may have been completely legally doing it, but it can be very hard to tell if someone is legally doing something such as the weight limit, can you tell if a drone is 250g+ from 50+meters away? also being able to know that someone is flying it in a safe manner is hard, when people don't say xyz is my plan it is very hard to tell if they are following the law (you don't know where they are, how far they can see, how close they may get to people etc) you also don't know how high they are flying,

they may also be a danger to the animals (which is a part of drone flying law), don't forget drayton have zoo animals and the noise and drone may be harmfull to them
 
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Drone Assist doesn't list it at all, the app recommended by the CAA. Obviously you wouldn't clear it on a risk assessment during ride operations but you can fly.
 
GooseOnTheLoose said:
*sigh* Please at least look at the map key before posting... It's right there on the home page.

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Source: https://www.noflydrones.co.uk/

It's a privately requested suggestion, made by the park, and listed on an enthusiast website tool, which carries no legal weight.
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I did, it is mentioned if you read my post (although I did edit it, I think you may have read the older version):
flyingguitar said:
it may be a byelaw or added the website is a bit weird
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I said it may be a byelaw
 
flyingguitar said:
I did, it is mentioned if you read my post (although I did edit it, I think you may have read the older version):

I said it may be a byelaw
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You didn't. You edited that after reading my post. The edit timestamp gives you away. My reply also shows your post exactly how it was, before you performed an edit.

There's no point discussing this with you if you're not going to engage in good faith.
 
Poisson said:
Drone Assist doesn't list it at all, the app recommended by the CAA.
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there is a university near me that still has a byelaw banning flights over it although it isn't listed in Done Assist.

GooseOnTheLoose said:
You edited that after reading my post. The edit timestamp sort of gives you away. My reply also shows your post exactly how it was, before you performed an edit.

There's no point discussing this with you if you're not going to engage in good faith.
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no I didn't, they both say the exact same timestamp I am guessing it was poor timing, I was reading some more and saw that key so I edited the post.
then later I saw the reply.
 
Double post. Bill me


Just to highlight my point. I am sharing this video below. It came up on my feed this morning.

This is how it should be done. Peacefully and respectfully. I know it's slightly different scenario. The same logic applies. Why get upset when someone approaches you and says. "Please can you not."

Same applies to those who arent filming. Just be respectful.

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