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Six Flags Quiddiya

GJMarshy said:
Just for a sense of scale…

This ride travels the (as the crow flies) distance between Bond Street and London Bridge.

That’s 10mins in the tube.
2.6mins on Falcons Flight.

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Or to put it into Alton Towers terms (which more of us will understand than a crow flying between 2 between underground stations ;)):

It is basically a tour of the park - the route being from Towers Street, to the top of Forbidden valley (via Katanga Canyon and The Curse), across the gardens past the Pagoda fountain, up onto the path to Dark Forest, past the back end of Rita, then onto Fountain square, down through the archway and along the front of the Towers, down into X sector, back up past the Games Bunker, Spinball, back to the Entrance plaza then the walk back to the middle of the main carpark.

From: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IhQLeqKNorrC1v29B2wdXl6OK2iGlgS6/view?usp=sharing
 
Bowser said:
The first negative comments about the park. Not about the Falcon itself, which he said is his new #1 coaster ever but the operations and queues. Six Flags Port Aventura?


From: https://x.com/J_Silkstone/status/2006508356060721524
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I am glad that The Jack Silkstone has finally found the critique bone in his body, pity it's directed to rollercoaster operations rather than against the authoritarian regime.

However, to be fair to the operations team, we should perhaps temper the surprise. The park has been open to the paying public for all of 48 hours. This is a region with zero historical pedigree in operating theme parks. They are attempting to build an operational culture from scratch, likely with staff who had never checked a restraint before last month. It was never going to be Europa Park on day two.

There is also the physics of the thing to consider. Falcon's Flight is 4 km long. The cycle time is enormous. Unless they are running maximum trains with military grade dispatch efficiency (which they evidently aren't yet), the theoretical throughput is going to be sluggish.

Let's also not forget the economic model of the region. This is hyper capitalism. The "bad operations" for the general admission guest are arguably a feature, not a bug.

In a market where paying for the best experience is the default setting, the incentive to optimise the standard queue is minimal. If you don't like waiting, the system expects you to pay your way out of it. The friction exists to upsell the solution.
 
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I don't think slow operations is going to be a massive issue for this park going forwards.

Its been busy this week because all the hype and the western vloggers and thoosies have descended on the place to ride FF but how often will they make repeat visits? Once every few years for some and probably longer for others. Some may never ever go back now they got the cred.

Ultimately they need locals to buy into this place to make it successful and similar to Dubai.....I think they might struggle a bit.
 
DiogoJ42 said:
Wow, that's a lot of "Jumbo Jets".
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Speaking of Jumbos, it'll be interesting to see if Quiddiya City will result in more frequent and/or Riyadh flights in future. Right now there's no direct flights from anywhere but Heathrow T5. That's 50 football pitches put together, Diogo! Aha but seriously if tourism is to increase more direct flights surely need to be laid on if they want much of the UK market.
 
GJMarshy said:
Speaking of Jumbos, it'll be interesting to see if Quiddiya City will result in more frequent and/or Riyadh flights in future. Right now there's no direct flights from anywhere but Heathrow T5. That's 50 football pitches put together, Diogo! Aha but seriously if tourism is to increase more direct flights surely need to be laid on if they want much of the UK market.
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Conversely there are a surprisingly high amount of daily direct flights. I’m looking at doing a short trip and was surprised to see up to 8 a day from
London! Not many long haul destinations with that frequency outside of New York and Dubai.
 
Poor operations and Six Flags is a relationship that goes back a long time.

No surprise when as the resident Cobra Chicken mentioned the country has zero experience in running parks to this scale.

Also considering that even with a dual load station, this is just t'Ultimate on steroids, and that took forever.
 
gclough79 said:
Just arrived back from Riyadh this morning after 2 days at SFQC, incredible park, incredible hospitality and for all the doubters and negativity surrounding FF I'm happy to confirm this is and amazing coaster and easily slots into my top 3.
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Could you do a full report when you have time? Where you stayed, transport, queue times etc?
 
Bowser said:
Conversely there are a surprisingly high amount of daily direct flights. I’m looking at doing a short trip and was surprised to see up to 8 a day from
London! Not many long haul destinations with that frequency outside of New York and Dubai.
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All I want is a single direct one from Manchester and I’d be off. I’ve resolved myself to find the time next autumn when the hype has settled a bit but I hate doing transfers especially when one of the flights is barely an hour long - either Manchester to London or eg Doha to Riyadh.

I’m fascinated to read some “actual” trip reports though that will hopefully appear after all the vlogging and glazing of the park has died down a little.

Truly #firstworldproblems
 
"Could you do a full report when you have time? Where you stayed, transport, queue times etc?"

I'll try and get round to writing one when I have a chance, I stayed in a Hilton hotel in Riyadh centre which from what I could briefly seen seemed to be a lovely clean and busy city that reminded me somewhat of Dubai, the park was about 45 minutes away and I opted to just rely on Uber taxi's to get back and forth to the park which were about £30 each way (I factored this into the cost).

The queue times in the park weren't too bad but I purchased a fast pass for both days to make the most of the trip and never waited longer than 10 minutes for any ride. However it seemed if you were in the regular lines the wait times especially for Falcons Flight were getting upwards of 2 hours and this seemed largely to be because there were a lot of people using fast pass which the operations were giving absolute priority to, this is something I'd expect to change over the coming weeks as the staff become more experienced and aware.

There was also perhaps an increased amount of people in the park due to it just opening, I'd expect things to mellow out in the coming weeks, especially as the weather gets hotter. I fully expect that there will be a point in the coming months where the park is very similar to those in Dubai where everything is more or less a walk on.
 
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