[🌎 Universal GB] General Discussion

[dave___]

I was going to say this, though that place is dirt cheap compared to Center Parcs in the UK... and also supposedly dirt ridden.

I can fully imagine Woburn CP pricing their accommodation at the same price year round rather than the school holiday gouging that currently goes on. And by that I don't mean dropping the school holiday price..

American and Far East tourists would absolutely lap it up though I bet.

 

[flyingguitar]

It dose surprise me that universal didn't buy up more land, if you look at a lot of their parks they are all enclosed by cities, limiting expansion and adding a lot of competition for hotels.comparing that to disney in florida, with essentially a monopoly on what hotels are close to their resort and where buses can go

I know buying more land is obviously more expensive but you would have thought that the expansion space, less access for hotel competitions, and reduced chance of neighbors complaints would be a good reason (especially when spending God knows how much on a theme park)

I feel like if successful it will end with either disneyland california or universal orland where to build another park they have to go miles away.

 

[Bert2theSpark]

It dose surprise me that universal didn't buy up more land, if you look at a lot of their parks they are all enclosed by cities, limiting expansion and adding a lot of competition for hotels.comparing that to disney in florida, with essentially a monopoly on what hotels are close to their resort and where buses can go

I know buying more land is obviously more expensive but you would have thought that the expansion space, less access for hotel competitions, and reduced chance of neighbors complaints would be a good reason (especially when spending God knows how much on a theme park)

I feel like if successful it will end with either disneyland california or universal orland where to build another park they have to go miles away.

They have space for a second gate and another hotel/waterpark, enough space to fill up two destination parks from the get-go. That’s already space for more parks than everything they have now but Orlando, a third gate would be 25+ years away from opening, and I’m sure they’ll find another plot of land they’d be able to connect with by then.

Also I’m surprised no one has mentioned the Pokémon announcement from yesterday, looks like that IP is in the bag for Orlando and Japan, but also the potential for other parks to use it. As Universal UK will be their newest park when Pokémon comes around, I can definitely see them leveraging the IP. What if Jurassic World is a stand-in in concept art at the moment? Apparently the park is not going to have any clones of existing Universal rides, period. So it could be more than just the Shrek/Mystery area that’s undefined in the concept art!

 

[xtpower]

They won't remove Jurassic World, it's a Universal staple. But what if they swap out Minions for Pokemon?

 

[East Coast Mariner]

It dose surprise me that universal didn't buy up more land, if you look at a lot of their parks they are all enclosed by cities, limiting expansion and adding a lot of competition for hotels.comparing that to disney in florida, with essentially a monopoly on what hotels are close to their resort and where buses can go

Yes. I'm less and less confident the Lake Zone will host a 2nd gate. Perhaps I've misunderstood something, but I've seen graphics where a road runs down the length of the Lake Zone, with a roundabout where the Concrete Slab is. I hope I'm wrong, but there doesn't seem enough space left for another theme park there.

The fields to the west look like they have potential though (if Universal could buy them).

Also I’m surprised no one has mentioned the Pokémon announcement from yesterday, looks like that IP is in the bag for Orlando and Japan, but also the potential for other parks to use it. As Universal UK will be their newest park when Pokémon comes around, I can definitely see them leveraging the IP. What if Jurassic World is a stand-in in concept art at the moment? Apparently the park is not going to have any clones of existing Universal rides, period. So it could be more than just the Shrek/Mystery area that’s undefined in the concept art!

It would be a shame not to have Nintendo at all, but hopefully it wouldn't be at the expense of Jurassic. Would definitely be a good alternative to Minions though.

 

[Bowser]

I don’t know why people are expecting a second gate. None of the parks outside the US have them so why would we? (I know Beijing is due to have one that has been delayed).

And i don’t know why people want it. I’d much prefer they focus on expanding the main park with new attractions when the time is right. Look at how badly it went for Disney in Europe with a second gate.

Personally i find the notion of multiple gates quite annoying. It’s inconvenient and expensive.

Obviously it’s prudent to allow for expansion but i think that’s something to consider decades from now. At best a water park expansion following the theme park would make more sense imo.

 

[Skyscraper]

At best a water park expansion following the theme park would make more sense imo.

A Rulantica-style heavily themed indoor water park would be awesome.

 

[xtpower]

They'll only go the second gate route if the park is a major success and by that I mean 10m+ a year attendance (before full buildout). As for why other global parks haven't got a second gate, well Singapore is a licensing deal and USJ doesn't have the space - Beijing are due one still.

The Lake Zone however will not be the home of a second gate, it's being lined up to house enough Hotels for 6000 rooms and a conference centre.

 

[rob666]

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Personally i find the notion of multiple gates quite annoying. It’s inconvenient and expensive. ...

That's the point...double up the money on entrance charges.

You haven't experienced the whole thing until you have paid twice.