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2019: General Discussion

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Mikw said:
I visited today for the first time in a while.
Car Park seemed busy, but the park seemed fairly quiet.

Last week i visited Europa Park for the first time as was massively impressed, was fearing it would show Alton Towers up when i came back.

Can i just say how brilliant the operations were today?

Very Europa-like. Many rides walk on and those that weren't, it was more of a Europa Style slow walk rather than a queue.

Great job to all the staff today! Managed at least two rides on all the coasters, and had time to sit down and chill in the sunshine.

I had to wait for Thirteen first thing in the morning as they couldn't operate it until they had enough riders, the ride op held a quiz over the microphone, every correct answer got a free fasttrack!

Was a nice touch
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Is this a new thing having to wait for enough riders on Thirteen? This happened to us on our last visit earlier this year but I don't recall it happening previously. We did get a free fastrack but to be honest operations were so good that day we didn't need to use them.
 
John C said:
Is this a new thing having to wait for enough riders on Thirteen? This happened to us on our last visit earlier this year but I don't recall it happening previously. We did get a free fastrack but to be honest operations were so good that day we didn't need to use them.
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No it has always had a minimum number of people (although it can also run empty). I believe it's to do with the trim brakes (so essentially because they bodged the ride) but someone might correct me on that.
 
Could they load it with sandbags like they do with the Big One if it's a momentum issue?
 
That would entail using common sense @Matt N, and knowing post Smiler modern risk averse Merlin a risk assessment and HSE sign off for every bag being lifted.

So probably quicker and easier just to wait for more people or fake a breakdown and give away fast track for another ride.

I've just realised I'm turning into my grumpy cynical dad, oh crap.
 
The nemesis ride team need to sort out the queue time advertised. Shown as 0 when galactica next door is 90! That can't possibly be right
 
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No it has always had a minimum number of people (although it can also run empty). I believe it's to do with the trim brakes (so essentially because they bodged the ride) but someone might correct me on that.
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It can either run empty with the trims turned fully off, or it has a minimum guest load with the trims turned on. The trims cannot adapt to the speed of the train like Smiler does, the operator literally has to manually turn the trims on or off (think it has a beam breaker that detects guests and auto-enables the trims if they are not switched back on).

It was a crappy retrofit as the ride was running too fast during testing.
 
Has thirteen always gone so slow over the last bit before the 2nd lift hill? It barely makes it in the morning! I don’t remember it running like that last season
 
I’m guilty of it when I’m sat at my desk at work when people make me want to throw my mug at their head. Ride times is a stress reliever for me. Take me to my happy place please.
 
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Ethan said:
The nemesis ride team need to sort out the queue time advertised. Shown as 0 when galactica next door is 90! That can't possibly be right
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Galactica was on 2 trains today, we were in FV at around 1130 and queued to the entrance of Galactica (no extensions) which took around 30 min. We'd just waited 10 for Nemesis. By the time we got off Galactica they'd opened the first extension and the queue was still to the entrance - at least an hour.
 
There was no ride close extensions this weekend - which was incredibly poor.

The situations on the car parks after ride close were horrendous due to the fact the park closed too early and everyone was forced out within a short time frame. Several rides had queues of 1 hour with just a few minutes until ride close. Towers Street was just rammed at close with long waits for food and the shop even after 6pm. With multiple queues over 1 hour, whoever was in charge yesterday needed to grow a pair and call it.

Even today, several rides hit 1 hour and there was no extension. Surely 5.30pm would have been appropriate?

I don't really understand how the procedure works. At the end of August, they extended to 7pm - yet yesterday was a full 2 hours less with only 3,000 or so less people on park? Last weekend, they extended to 6pm on Saturday. But not yesterday. And the weather was better. Interesting.

Maybe it all comes down to the whimsical feelings of whoever is on charge on the day.

Or whether the person in charge has a dinner date to keep.
 
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The queue inside towers trading was insane a group of 5 people literally pushed in ahead of me because they didn’t want to go and join the long queue (it was about 10 minutes).
 
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