[2024] Nemesis Reborn: Construction and Speculation

[Dave]

No, but with how the track colour ended up, I doubt it'll change my opinion of it that much.

You generally have been determined to dislike everything so far this season so I doubt you will change your opinion one iota.

I doubt it’s being painted entirely black, probably a base to build up the rest of the colour scheme.

 

[Trooper Looper]

You generally have been determined to dislike everything so far this season so I doubt you will change your opinion one iota.

I doubt it’s being painted entirely black, probably a base to build up the rest of the colour scheme.

I'm sorry. I don't know how else to put it, I just don't like it. I literally Don't know what else to say... hopefully it'll turn out decent and I'm proven wrong though

 

[QTXAdsy]

Actually, I think that the black is actually going back to the original 1994 promo design picture for the beast as seen here and with the eyes gone it might gain new orange eyes which would greatly change the look of the creature.

That said, add a touch of purple or red for some of the extra details (we know the park has a endless supply of purple) then it might end up looking good.

 

[Matt N]

I quite like the black! I think it’ll go well with the new track; I did think that the current station colour scheme didn’t quite mesh with the new track…

 

[Poisson]

I hope it is colour testing. Not for the colour itself, but it seems a cop out not to rebuild the mainly rotten station whilst they have a chance. Can't imagine any of it is undamaged after 30 years.

 

[Tim]

The one shame if we lose the eye stalk is that it made a good leg chopper.

But animating the eyes to sell the idea it's a real living monster would be amazing. I don’t know if the original ride was immediately obvious to most that it was meant to be a living thing.

 

[AdamWebb]

I'm also feeling positive about the changes and waiting to judge only as a complete finished package on opening day next season. As much as I loved the OG junkyard rust, if these changes were necessary for the marketing team to justify the budget allocation for the retrack then I'm all for it. I will, however, be joining @Trooper Looper on the negativity train if they butcher the soundtrack Rightly or wrongly, it's the thing I'm most caught up over on the whole project.

 

[Skyscraper]

As above:


From: https://twitter.com/TowersTimes/status/1683534069303263239

Surprised no one has mentioned it yet, but the profiling of the zero-g roll appears to be slightly different. Will be interesting to see how it rides next year.

 

[Brad97]

Looks pretty much the same to me, but it could be the angle.

 

[Steve74]

Actually, I think that the black is actually going back to the original 1994 promo design picture for the beast as seen here and with the eyes gone it might gain new orange eyes which would greatly change the look of the creature.

That said, add a touch of purple or red for some of the extra details (we know the park has a endless supply of purple) then it might end up looking good.

You could be onto something here. The black does look good, and on TPWW's latest video he shows it close up. He seems concerned that they appear to be just painting over broken foam and fibreglass, but to me that black - whether the final coat/colour or not - does look a bit thick and "rubbery" so maybe it's a more protective material than just paint?



Also, he spots these wooden cut outs:



Now of course they could be for just about anything at the moment, but with the fact that the eye stalks have been removed, in that 1994 artist's drawing the arms and claws look like they protrude from somewhere near where the eye stalks were and the shape of these wooden cut-outs, could these be the frames and skeleton for these claws?


From: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HikQiQED0Mw

 

[jmc]

You could be onto something here. The black does look good, and on TPWW's latest video he shows it close up. He seems concerned that they appear to be just painting over broken foam and fibreglass, but to me that black - whether the final coat/colour or not - does look a bit thick and "rubbery" so maybe it's a more protective material than just paint?



Also, he spots these wooden cut outs:



Now of course they could be for just about anything at the moment, but with the fact that the eye stalks have been removed, in that 1994 artist's drawing the arms and claws look like they protrude from somewhere near where the eye stalks were and the shape of these wooden cut-outs, could these be the frames and skeleton for these claws?


From: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HikQiQED0Mw

If you look at the original construction pictures, the frame underneath the fibreglass is made up of the same cut outs. They are probably just replacing parts of the monster that are beyond repair.

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[Zeock]

I would love it if they animate the eyes. I think that it would give an extra sense of life to Forbidden Valley.

 

[Dobba]

There is surely no way they're doing anything close to a final coat of paint eight months prior to this thing re-opening. They're going to want the whole site looking like it was painted yesterday when all the press turn up on opening day, not having sat through both a summer and winter.

 

[Mykeprime]

The eye stalks are my earliest memory of anything Alton before I knew what it was; with that old advert where they blast a hole in the rock for the train to run through. I hope they don't get rid of them.

 

[Josh]

Surprised no one has mentioned it yet, but the profiling of the zero-g roll appears to be slightly different. Will be interesting to see how it rides next year.

Looks pretty identical to me

 

[James]

I'm disappointed if they are painting over visibly very old and worn theming. Given the work going on around the ride, I would rather they look more at replacing the majority of the station than throwing a load of black and red paint over it (of course, it's hard to judge at this point precisely what work is ongoing).

As for the eye, it seems some animation will be coming, either a screen or animatronic. I think that with some smoke/mist and sound effects and it will serve as the big central ‘Instagrammable’ theming object that Merlin loves to do with their coasters.

 

[QTXAdsy]

Hot take here that might sound controversial on here but I have always hated the googley eyes for Nemesis which always looked comical to me though some might argue that it is good old 1990's cheesy goodness and I must say I never even noticed the leg chopper element before and I'm sure 80% of the GP didn't even notice them too. At least if they were replacing them with the original orange eye look built into the head of the creature then it might be not only more easily seen as being a giant alien monster but actually the original look had this evil look to it far more than what we have now.

Now regarding the painting of the station, I do think it's just a testing to see what looks good as I have noticed in TPWW's video that towards the back of the station building there is grey primer added which I'm sure was never there before and is likely a test too as to see what looks good before they rebuild the whole structure.

Personally I'd go all out in making the creature twice as big in which the monster covers the maintenance shed area which I have felt ruined the overall feel so blending it in or covering it up would be good. Plus imagine a bigger Nemesis monster with it's tentacles all on the edge of the pit as if it's trying to climb out in which if you were walking under it would create one hell of a image...mind you being under giant spider legs would give utter fear for those who suffer from a fear of spiders given the spider/crab design of the monster to begin with.

 

[Ash]

Animatronics outside in the British weather... I don't see that going too well tbh...

Some rounded screen, projected screen, led ball could work reasonably well imo

 

[Burner]

I'm not suggesting it'd be a good idea, but I'm not suggesting it'd be a bad idea.

 

[The_bup]

Hot take here that might sound controversial on here but I have always hated the googley eyes for Nemesis which always looked comical to me though some might argue that it is good old 1990's cheesy goodness and I must say I never even noticed the leg chopper element before and I'm sure 80% of the GP didn't even notice them too. At least if they were replacing them with the original orange eye look built into the head of the creature then it might be not only more easily seen as being a giant alien monster but actually the original look had this evil look to it far more than what we have now.

I think the original eye could be really good if they leaned into the more body horror aspect of it. They could make it look wet, like a muscle or organ, and some sound design could really aid that