[2024] Nemesis Reborn: Construction and Speculation

[Squiggs]

There's basically three themes we can confirm that were considered for air:

• Epic Dystopian Landscape
• Flight Craft (i.e. the steampunk/airship concepts)
• The theme we got

I certainly don't think I have ever seen any concept arts for anything other than these three routes.

We have seen mood boards linking the Epic Dystopian Landscape theme to SW5, but nothing more, so this seems like it never progressed beyond an idea. We have quite a lot of concept art for the steampunk/Flight Craft concept, as well as plans that seem to show the coaster with a station building in that style. There are plans as late as February 2001 using what looks like the Flight Craft concept, which would suggest that this was the prevailing theme at that time.

However, by March 2001 they were producing pretty accurate 3D renderings of the existing station building, so it looks like it was around this time that the theme that Air opened with was selected. And by summer they were busy refining the layout of the shop within the curved building we got.

I'd suggest that nothing about the swooping glass structure of Air's station building says 'military', so I'm not really sure if there is room within Air's development timeline when a military theme can have been seriously considered - certainly not by September 2001.

Apologies, that was a bitesize momentary Air Development history. Probably best to jump forward 20 odd years back to Nemesis' redevlopment in 2023.

 

[Tim]

Of all the potential themes Air could have had, Galactica might be the easiest one to link with Nemesis. The monster is from out of space. Forbidden Valley has a British 'Area 51' equivalent vibe. With a few tweaks to the story Galactica could change to being an organisation like the federation from Star Treck (the logos already practically the same).
You board the alien ship while they are observing the monster, but suddenly they take-off, unknowingly taking you with them.

Not that I personally think Galactica will see any changes this year. There's so much that needs doing to FV, and only so much they can do in a single season. If there is any leftover budget replacing Ripsaw would be higher priority.

 

[Trooper Looper]

Keep air and Nemesis separate please. We've got more than enough military/dark themes already. We don't need another one. Give me more unique themes like the original plans air had, if only they had the budget for it. Anyway, this isn't the most appropriate Thread to talk about it in.

 

[blackholes crow]

Just seen this posted by John Burton settling the discussion on Twitter:

If it was a green liquid why was the water red? Shouldn't it be green?

 

[Josh555]

All for keeping Nemesis and Galactica separate but it would be great if they could rethink the idea of a space themed roller coaster with virtually no space like theming situated completely outdoors, it’s daft.

 

[mo237]

I believe the "green liquid" (although if you want to be pedantic, the original file stated it was yellow) was oozing from the ground round about the time of the original excavation - or something like that.

Mr Wardley explained in this video from the Nemesis 21 Event.

From: https://youtu.be/H7OjP4YKYwE?si=VpfxrteDP2h2r3ES&t=796

 

[Jb85]

Didn't mean for a whole discussion. As others have eluded to, three themes were clearly considered. We got what we got which was.....a half arsed effort at an oasis theme.


Anyway....Nemesis...

 

[Skyscraper]

All out for Nemesis this year and next

I do hope these lights are a permanent addition and not just for now. Would be incredible at Scarefest next year!

 

[Blackhole_Sun]

I do hope these lights are a permanent addition and not just for now. Would be incredible at Scarefest next year!

If they keep the search lights, smoke and red lighting, that front row at night will be

 

[Mattie boy]

Seems a lot of work just for 3 nights... and well they won't be on again until October next year if they are permanent.

I get its promotion on a busy weekend for the ride yet still.. all of Scarefest and fireworks would have put more use to them rather than just 3 nights

 

[DistortAMG]

They look temporary. It's not that much work to place a few spots and wash lights around the place, not when they are already doing it park wide for scarefest.

 

[Skyscraper]

They look temporary. It's not that much work to place a few spots and wash lights around the place, not when they are already doing it park wide for scarefest.

Just hope they'll bring them back for Scarefest next year. Would be a real shame if not.

 

[Morgan Price]

Rumours of an 8pm Phalanx announcement


From: https://x.com/towerstimes/status/1721240019476631799?s=46&t=yO1yBjvLsYAwa_Hl7yMQvA



From: https://x.com/coasterdan10/status/1721216210686136406?s=46&t=yO1yBjvLsYAwa_Hl7yMQvA

 

[WickerWonder18]

New Name announcement I reckon?

 

[Mykeprime]

"Sorry guys, we've changed our mind and are scrapping Nemesis"

 

[WickerWonder18]

"Sorry guys, we've changed our mind and are scrapping Nemesis"

"The nemesis creature has escaped and we've lost it"

 

[Morgan Price]

Umm… looks like nothing happened after all

 

[DistortAMG]

I can just picture a load of vloggers waiting around for.......nothing.

 

[Skyscraper]

Umm… looks like nothing happened after all

Maybe they said 8 to make sure everyone was in place, before doing it a little later? Could well have just pulled everyone's legs though.

 

[Hew878787]

Was there any proof on this 8PM announcement rumour or was it just enthusiast Chinese whispers?