Matt N
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- Shambhala (PortAventura Park)
The full planning permit was due in July, yes. I wonder what’s causing the hold up with it?
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John_P
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AT86
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According to the noise report the ride will have one train seating 24 riders and will have a ride time of one minute. It also has a reported load time of one minute, meaning a max throughput of 720ph.
The noise report was based on a ride of a similar type in Italy. This ride can accommodate 28 riders per train and has a lift hill.
The noise report was based on a ride of a similar type in Italy. This ride can accommodate 28 riders per train and has a lift hill.
AT86
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The layout looks pretty dull, B&M wing coasters aren’t massively known for their nimbleness, and combined with this layout it seems like it could be boring. Especially as it has a 1.4m height limit so it isn’t exactly aimed at the younger market where a more tame ride would make sense.
Perhaps this is actually a new prototype or design from B&M? Could the seats rotate/swing etc to add another element to the ride?
Perhaps this is actually a new prototype or design from B&M? Could the seats rotate/swing etc to add another element to the ride?
In advance: sorry for the long post.
Interesting, so its some form of boomerang wing coaster from B&M. What a strange idea! At least if its B&M we know its going to be good quality but the throughput surprises me. I would have thought B&M would have found a way to make the throughput better than that. Could the seats actually be 4 across each side as the 24 rides seems only to be a prediction from Chessington buzz? is that even possible?
The main question I have is why are they building a sort of mild-thrill coaster at Chessington? Is it meant to be like the last challenge for the kids before they go to Thorpe? Is it something for the parents? I suppose it broadens the market for Chessington but diminishes Thorpe's. I do wonder if this is a way of slowly taking Thorpe out and eventually selling it once its already too far gone.
I think this whole plan is just a response to Paulton's Park who have been adding better quality rides and better overall experiences. Is this a new strategy to counter them? What's Paulton's response going to be? Are we going to see a heavy themed mild-thrill coaster there in the next few years?
So many question left unanswered! I'm just not really sure what to think.
As for B&M this could turn out to be the perfect model for them. Since Covid has ruined this industry nobody is going to be wanting to add 150Ft hyper coasters and massive Dive coasters. They needed something different and something a little cheaper to sell to the less popular/budgeted parks in these big chains, something that still unique but easy to design.
Anyway it should be exciting to watch the construction and see what happens! That's if it gets planning permission.
Interesting, so its some form of boomerang wing coaster from B&M. What a strange idea! At least if its B&M we know its going to be good quality but the throughput surprises me. I would have thought B&M would have found a way to make the throughput better than that. Could the seats actually be 4 across each side as the 24 rides seems only to be a prediction from Chessington buzz? is that even possible?
I was thinking this. I hope its got something that they are hiding because the layout is really weird and to be honest a bit dull.
The main question I have is why are they building a sort of mild-thrill coaster at Chessington? Is it meant to be like the last challenge for the kids before they go to Thorpe? Is it something for the parents? I suppose it broadens the market for Chessington but diminishes Thorpe's. I do wonder if this is a way of slowly taking Thorpe out and eventually selling it once its already too far gone.
I think this whole plan is just a response to Paulton's Park who have been adding better quality rides and better overall experiences. Is this a new strategy to counter them? What's Paulton's response going to be? Are we going to see a heavy themed mild-thrill coaster there in the next few years?
So many question left unanswered! I'm just not really sure what to think.
As for B&M this could turn out to be the perfect model for them. Since Covid has ruined this industry nobody is going to be wanting to add 150Ft hyper coasters and massive Dive coasters. They needed something different and something a little cheaper to sell to the less popular/budgeted parks in these big chains, something that still unique but easy to design.
Anyway it should be exciting to watch the construction and see what happens! That's if it gets planning permission.
AT86
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The planning documents confirm 24 riders.
Islander
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I don’t think that’s true at all, I think parks worldwide will be desperate to do something big to entice customers back. Maybe not this year and next whilst finances are still rocky, but I can imagine a number will be planning for big investments in the next 5-odd years, the sort of investments that take a number of years to plan
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oh that's not good. Chessington needs something high throughput. What were the thinking? Are we sure there's only one train?
I agree to some extent but even in the long term as B&M fill the Chinese market they are going to need something cheaper to plug the gaps for the next 5-10 years. I think they could do without this perfectly fine but if proven successful could be very popular.
Matt N
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- Favourite Ride
- Shambhala (PortAventura Park)
There could well be a sliding station or turntable; I wouldn’t be surprised if B&M went for this in order to increase capacity, as they are arguably the kings of ensuring high throughput!
24 rider trains are probably also necessary because the ride is so compact. It probably wouldn’t cope with 28 or 32 rider trains and still be able to produce comfortable levels of g-force.
Plastic Person
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A one train, launched B&M junior wing rider concept seems outlandish for the company, but I wonder if they are just finally adapting to the new world, now that RMC and Vekoma can deliver similar entry-level products with wide appeal to parks on a budget? Chessington wouldn't be a bad place for them to dip their toes in fresh waters.
It'll be interesting or at least curious to ride, but at the end of the day, the park desperately needs throughput.
It'll be interesting or at least curious to ride, but at the end of the day, the park desperately needs throughput.
Based on the plans this isn’t happening, also the noise assessment states 24 riders with a 1 min ride time and 1 min reload so a train of 24 riders every other minute.
tayspru
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If there was a sliding / turntable station we’d see it in the plans. I also can’t begin to see how it would work practically as the trains load from both sides. The only way they could have done two trains would have been a switch track into the main circuit which doesn’t appear to be the case.
Merlin don’t seem to care about throughput these days anyway, think how much they’d lose in FT sales if this coaster was *gasps* efficient !
This is what I was trying to get at. B&M needed that new entry level, slightly cheaper, coaster design.