Disneyland Paris: General Discussion

[DiogoJ42]

I also think a major reason Paris never got Jungle Cruise is the language issue. Jungle Cruise in the US relies on the corny jokes. If you did this in Paris would it be in French or English, what humour would you target and in what languages?

That's a very good point that had never occurred to me.

 

[MattL27]

Hong Kong Disneyland deals with this perfectly, tailors jokes to make them less corny and has two lines for each language

 

[John_P]

I also think a major reason Paris never got Jungle Cruise is the language issue. Jungle Cruise in the US relies on the corny jokes. If you did this in Paris would it be in French or English, what humour would you target and in what languages?

I think one of the Asian Disney Parks had different queues for different languages on their Jungle Cruise, so they could do that if they wanted.

 

[Llama]

The Hong Kong Jungle (River) Cruise originally had three lines I believe, Cantonese, Mandarin, and English, and you could pick which language you wanted the tour in. From a quick search it looks like they scrapped that in favour of the skippers doing jokes in all three languages which seems a bit rougher for both them and the audience, but probably easier on the spreadsheets.

For those in the know it's a shame the Japanese one wasn't copied but for the majority of European people who will likely never visit Japan (or any other Disney park) i'm sure they're delighted to be getting a World of Frozen and a Lion King land. It's easy to forget that many people rarely get to visit Disney parks, often once in a lifetime.

Totally correct, and the normal non-Japan Frozen ride seems decent enough. But as a massive Disney parks fan and observer of the business that backs up the parks, I can put it another way: I know Disney can do better when they choose to, and in this case it seems like they are doing the bare minimum. In one case their solution to a failed park was Cars Land and in this case it's a clone of a boat ride that was itself originally an overlay of another boat ride.

 

[Bowser]

Totally correct, and the normal non-Japan Frozen ride seems decent enough. But as a massive Disney parks fan and observer of the business that backs up the parks, I can put it another way: I know Disney can do better when they choose to, and in this case it seems like they are doing the bare minimum. In one case their solution to a failed park was Cars Land and in this case it's a clone of a boat ride that was itself originally an overlay of another boat ride.

Certainly agree. Though to play Devils Advocate, it's also probably not fair to expect or compare any Disney park to Japans as they're a beast unto themselves and not actually run by Disney. They seem to have virtually unlimited budgets (not that Disney are poor but you follow my point) in exchange for a park capacity that simply would not be accepted in the other countries imo. Tokyo might even have restrictions that their bespoke rides cannot be recreated.

Roll on the Tokyo versus Abu Dhabi Disney tech wars...

 

[Llama]

Certainly agree. Though to play Devils Advocate, it's also probably not fair to expect or compare any Disney park to Japans as they're a beast unto themselves and not actually run by Disney. They seem to have virtually unlimited budgets (not that Disney are poor but you follow my point) in exchange for a park capacity that simply would not be accepted in the other countries imo. Tokyo might even have restrictions that their bespoke rides cannot be recreated.

Roll on the Tokyo versus Abu Dhabi Disney tech wars...

Completely fair, it is kind of cheating to point to the Japanese Disney parks when they are playing by different rules... I'm mostly just upset that's the case! Come to think of it, I don't believe any of the winners from Tokyo have ever been cloned elsewhere, so while I haven't heard of an explicit rule against that it does seem to be the case. A little unfair, they got to copy Midway Mania and Tower of Terror, the least they can do is send Beauty and the Beast in this direction... or at the very least, some of their popcorn flavours

 

[MattBTP]

Completely fair, it is kind of cheating to point to the Japanese Disney parks when they are playing by different rules... I'm mostly just upset that's the case! Come to think of it, I don't believe any of the winners from Tokyo have ever been cloned elsewhere, so while I haven't heard of an explicit rule against that it does seem to be the case. A little unfair, they got to copy Midway Mania and Tower of Terror, the least they can do is send Beauty and the Beast in this direction... or at the very least, some of their popcorn flavours

Think they do have an "exclusivity contract" (particularly for DisneySEA) for the attractions built in Japan. Believe OLC pays Imagineering (similar to a design consultant) to develop their attractions

 

[Aardvark]

I don’t know if this is true if the main park is getting 10m visitors a year and the other 5m though obviously we’d need an actual breakdown of unique visitors to know either way.

That is to do with how DLP count guests. You are counted once per day, and you get counted for the park you enter first. As most start in Disneyland Park and then switch to studios, it distorts the numbers.

 

[Benjsh]

That is to do with how DLP count guests. You are counted once per day, and you get counted for the park you enter first. As most start in Disneyland Park and then switch to studios, it distorts the numbers.

I thought this would be the case. Ain't no way half the people visiting the resort are just going to skip TOT, Toy Story, Crush Coaster etc. It might not be a full day park but its definitely not something most would skip.

We did about 5 hrs in there across 3 fairly quiet days last time we went. More than enough time for what we wanted to do.

 

[Bowser]

That is to do with how DLP count guests. You are counted once per day, and you get counted for the park you enter first. As most start in Disneyland Park and then switch to studios, it distorts the numbers.

How do you know this? Seems odd the park would publicly broadcast much lower visitor numbers if actual figures were substantially higher.