Eurovision 2021

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  1. MattyH

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    Semi Final 1 qualifiers

    Norway
    Lithuania
    Israel
    Cyprus
    Russia
    Sweden
    Azerbaijan
    Belgium
    Malta
    Ukraine

    Some slightly shock results in that Belgium and Israel both qualified but Australia missed out
     
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    Croatia was robbed.
    I didn't like Belgium but can see why others do.
    Australia's song was pretty good but maybe the telephone votes didn't like the fact they didn't do it live?
    I liked North Macedonia, it felt like the main male lead in a musical, but I can see why it didn't go through.
    Loved Irelands staging, but she did seem a little out of breath.

    Malta will probably win the contest though?
     
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    Just for a little more context on Malta, Destiny won Junior Eurovision in 2015 when she was just 13 years old with this.


    She's now 18, and that voice last night was arguably the best of the 16 semi-finalists, and one of the best this year. Absolutely excellent.

    Regarding Ireland, what they could've possibly done instead is have some similar visuals from the video on the back wall and have Lesley do some stuff on stage that would've left her slightly less out-of-breath. Not a fan of Belgium, though the cinematography used was pretty decent, especially that long zoom from the rear of the arena to the stage. Not surprised that North Macedonia and Slovenia didn't go through - North Macedonia felt rather musical theatre/Disney, and it wasn't too bad, though I'm not shocked it didn't qualify.

    In sad news, a member of Iceland's act has tested positive for COVID. They've made the difficult decision to not perform in the live shows, and will instead be using their live-on-tape recording from the second rehearsals last week. I'm devastated for them, though there was always the chance it'd happen to someone. I'm still hopeful they'll qualify, but I'm not sure they'll do quite as well as may have been expected.
     
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    Thats a shame, but unfortuantly I don't think Daði og Gagnamagnið have as good a song this year as they did last year anyway.
     
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    Also is it me or are there are a few songs that are about being gay?
    Here I stand by Vasil for North Macedonia and I don’t feel hate by Jenrik for Germany both have definite themes
     
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    I mean... It is Eurovision

    Didn’t like Germany’s entry at all to begin with but is has really grown on me! Though admittedly as pointed out to me by @Craig the other day it is like watching The Wiggles
     
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    Worth noting that Vasil is gay, and I think was one of the first publicly out celebrities in North Macedonia.
     
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    Yes I remember hearing that on Tuesday, it's a fantastic thing that he is putting himself out there and the lyrics really do feel like they mean something to him.

    Germany's entry is now one of my favourites, it won't win but its such a great message and who doesn't love a tap break and a ukulele solo!

    and yes Eurovision is always camp, but this year it just felt a couple of the song lyrics had a lot of meaning too.
     
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    He was interview for Attitude magazine not long ago, and the article was fantastic, showing him to be so incredibly open & eloquent about his experiences of growing up gay.
     
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    Semi Final 2 tonight, Looking forwards to see Flo Rida and Blind Channel not looking forwards to the Bulgaria entry which is just dull.
     
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    So, SF2 time tonight. Here are my reviews. It should be noted that Iceland will be using the performance recorded from their second rehearsal tonight and (if they qualify) the final owing to one of their band members testing positive for COVID.

    01 – San Marino (‘Adrenalina’ by Senhit)
    When this dropped, I did NOT expect Flo-Rida to appear in the video. Now he’s confirmed to be in Rotterdam, people will watch. It’s excellent, and Senhit is a performer with so much character. It’s qualifying, and will surely give San Marino their best ever result. Top 10, maybe?

    02 – Estonia (‘The Lucky One’ by Uku Suviste)
    Of the songs in the semi death slots this year, this is the best one. Uku’s excellent. The staging does seem interesting, but I think it works. Not sure of its chances at qualifying, but I think it’s in with a shot, despite being in the death slot.

    03 – Czech Republic (‘Omaga’ by Benny Cristo)
    Benny’s a good performer, and does well on stage, but I’m just not warming to it for some reason. The staging itself feels a bit flat for such an upbeat song, and I’m concerned it won’t help its chances of qualification very much.

    04 – Greece (‘Last Dance’ by Stefania)
    Stefania’s great. She performs the song very well. The staging does involve green-screen effects, which work quite well, but it feels a little flat in places from what I’ve seen so far. In full broadcast version, it should be fine, and I think Greece are very likely to qualify.

    05 – Austria (‘Amen’ by Vincent Bueno)
    I like a power ballad, and Vincent sells it this year. I didn’t think much of it, but the staging has REALLY helped to elevate it in a big way. The same happened with Conchita in 2014. I don’t see this doing as well, but its chances of qualification are improved on before.

    06 – Poland (‘The Ride’ by Rafał)
    When I saw the video, I instantly thought ‘douchebag’. My view hasn’t changed. There’s little variation in melody, the staging is messy, and I don’t know what Rafał is wearing. Won’t be unhappy if this doesn’t qualify.

    07 – Moldova (‘Sugar’ by Natalia Gordienko)
    The music video was interesting, and I think quite dynamic. This hasn’t translated to the stage. It just feels rather static, despite Natalia’s very good vocals. I thought it was definitely going through, but I’m a bit more on the fence now.

    08 – Iceland (’10 Years’ by Daði og Gagnamagnið)
    Last year’s favourite is back. It’s very characterful, and staged very well. Daði is incredibly talented, and that’s clear throughout. I’m not sure people will warm to it as much as Think About Things, but it’s qualifying and will give Iceland an excellent finish.

    09 – Serbia (‘Loco Loco’ by Hurricane)
    There’s a hurricane brewing halfway through this semi, and Serbia deliver big-time. It’s loud, it’s in-your-face, and it works. Vocals are so on point throughout, with harmonies being excellent. It’s qualifying without a doubt, and should finish well for Serbia.

    10 – Georgia (‘You’ by Tornike Kipiani)
    It’s quite a comedown from Serbia. Tornike is a good vocalist, but the staging feels rather dreary, even for a ballad. I see VERY little chance of this qualifying, if at all.

    11 – Albania (‘Karma’ by Anxhela Peristeri)
    Albania are underrated. Anxhela is superb, and owns the stage really well. It’s an excellent song, and while the staging seems rather minimalist so far, it kinda works for it. I’d be very happy to see this qualify, and I think it probably will after Georgia.

    12 – Portugal (‘Love Is On My Side’ by The Black Mamba)
    The first song Portugal have sent a song entirely in another language. It’s a ballad, yes, but it’s performed quite well. It’s gone up in the odds by quite a bit during rehearsals, which is good for them. I wouldn’t be surprised if it didn’t qualify, but I’d equally be happy if it did.

    13 – Bulgaria (‘Growing Up Is Getting Old’ by Victoria)
    Yet another ballad, but it’s a good one. The staging is simple, but Victoria seems to sell it well, and she’s a really good performer. It’s one of the favourites to win, and while I don’t think it will, I think the top 10 is definitely beckoning.

    14 – Finland (‘Dark Side’ by Blind Channel)
    You can rely on Finland to produce excellent rock songs for Eurovision. It’s got real Linkin Park vibes, and they perform it really well indeed. So much energy, and going after a couple of ballads will help. Qualifying for sure, and a good shout for the top 10.

    15 – Latvia (‘The Moon Is Rising’ by Samanta Tīna)
    Samanta is a great performer, there’s no doubt about that, and the staging does help the song a bit. I’m slightly concerned, though, that coming after Finland may hurt its chances. Two loud songs together might not work. On the fence regarding qualification.

    16 – Switzerland (‘Tout l’univers’ by Gjon’s Tears)
    Vocally, Gjon is absolutely perfect. The song is so, so good. The staging, though? From the clips we’ve seen, it doesn’t seem to make all that much sense, and it may not really connect with the audience as much as hoped. It’s qualifying, and should get Top 5 at the very least.

    17 – Denmark (‘Øve os på hinanden) by Fyr & Flamme)
    It’s very disco, and it’s nice to see Denmark performing in their own language for the first time since 1997. I’m still not overly keen on it, but there’s no denying it’s well-performed, and the staging’s half-decent. Will it qualify? I don’t know, and I’m not too fussed either way.
     
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    I really wasn't taken by this semi-final as much as the first.

    Love Iceland but its not as good as their song last year.
    Switzerland makes me cry a little, its a good ballad.
    Georgia was a terrible come down and they should have "read the room" a little and tried to do something to it.
    I didn't get why so many people liked Moldova, maybe it is better with the video?
    Quite a few songs were very samey.
     
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    Well, last night was fun, wasn't it? I managed to get 9/10 qualifiers, putting Austria through ahead of Moldova. I'm still disappointed by Moldova. The video was wacky with dancing ice cream cones, and they brought none of that. Georgia was just...really flat, and offered nothing. The producers putting it after the high-energy song from Serbia was a wise decision, but I don't think putting it anywhere else would've saved it, either.

    After the semi had finished, I was frantically refreshing every page waiting for the running order to come up, and we eventually got it.
    1. Cyprus
    2. Albania
    3. Israel
    4. Belgium
    5. Russia
    6. Malta
    7. Portugal
    8. Serbia
    9. United Kingdom
    10. Greece
    11. Switzerland
    12. Iceland
    13. Spain
    14. Moldova
    15. Germany
    16. Finland
    17. Bulgaria
    18. Lithuania
    19. Ukraine
    20. France
    21. Azerbaijan
    22. Norway
    23. Netherlands
    24. Italy
    25. Sweden
    26. San Marino
     
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    That running order could work in San Marino's favour..
     
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    I think the producers have done a good thing by putting San Marino last. People will definitely remember it going into the voting, and I still think San Marino could well end up in the top 10 overall. This'll definitely help them.
     
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    Twenty sixth incoming?

    Edit: yep, can't say I'm surprised the UK came away with nothing - not a great live performance sadly, on top of our general unpopularity
     
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    Really high standard across the board this year which made of a brilliant show! We did not deserve 0 points, but we were one of the weaker performances. It's a pretty decent song but he just could not sing the verses.
     
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    Yep I think we had an alright song but the staging and performance weren't great.
    Also worth noting all the bottom four songs went straight to the final, if they had to do the semi-finals maybe they wouldn't have got through?

    Other thoughts I've seen mentioned,
    most winning Eurovision songs are in a minor key, we often enter songs in a major key.
    Do non-English speakers know what "Embers" means, was the concept of the song lost? Whereas the top three were non-English songs but it didn't feel like they relied upon the meaning being important.

    I was shocked at how few points Malta got in the televote.
     
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    Delving deeper into the results gives an even more damning assessment of our entry this year. In the public votes a massive 60% of countries ranked us in the bottom 2 of the 26 finalists. The best (well, least bad) position was 14th, from Malta, no other country put the UK higher than 20th.

    The juries were slightly less harsh, with the Polish jury ranking us 11th, just one place outside the points. Even so, our average placing was frankly dreadful with more than half of countries ranking the UK 20th or lower.

    The full breakdown, if you can stomach it, can be found here:

    https://escxtra.com/2021/05/23/televoting-united-kingdom-eurovision-202/amp/
     
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