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Futuroscope 2025: Mission Bermudes (Mack Rocking Boat)

Since when did any theme park ride make sense???


And as I am late to the party, but it still hasn't been made clear yet...
Looks slow.
 
Skyscraper said:
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's where it's rumoured to be going. Voltron was just the first phase of the Croatia area.
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I thought that was the case too although I'm not sure if that's delayed or shelved considering we got Mickey and Minnie Mouse's Mario Kart: Toy Story Mania this year in promotion for their movie.
 
owenstreet7 said:
I thought that was the case too although I'm not sure if that's delayed or shelved considering we got Mickey and Minnie Mouse's Mario Kart: Toy Story Mania this year in promotion for their movie.
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I wouldn't assume a plan has been shelved just because the phase 2 didn't open a year after phase 1.
Voltron was a huge project that spanned many years. This boat ride sounds like it could be equally as ambitious. I imagine it was always planned to be a long term project rather than an immediate follow-up.
 
Llama said:
POV!


From: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiN_iVTM6hY
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Power consumption on this must be astronomical. Power hungry LSMs for most of the circuit, plus power hungry water pumps for the rapid parts. You can see the extremely chunky power cables for the LSMs throughout many parts of the ride.

I will happily be proven wrong as the ride system looks amazing and I want to ride it, but I can't see this being too popular in western parts of the world, where power consumption is a big thing due to how expensive it is.

Unless Mack have worked some of that German magic, most parks in the west, apart from the biggest, would struggle to run such a ride, where energy consumption is already their number one cost.

That said, would a park that isnt even the biggest be buying such a ride system anyway, as it would need lots of theming to be done properly. Get it to the UK for Universal I say!

EDIT, the boats apparently have a drive motor according to a Mack presentation, but there is clearly ALOT of linear motors on that POV. Maybe they have changed design, this is a prototype ride after all. Or you can spec it per your needs, good idea and is the type of German magic I was referring to.
 
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Poisson said:
They could always belt drive certain bits like a traditional flume ride I guess?
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That would completely defeat the ride system they are going for though I think. You can't have sharp turns and twists with drive belts, it just wouldn't be possible.

I find it interesting how the Mack presentation makes no mentions what so ever of linear motors, however, that POV has LOADS. Something doesnt add up.
 
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The linear motors involved much less maintenance than other methods which needs to be considered in overall long term running costs. Also power consumption isn’t as high as the technology used to be especially moving a boat at the speed the ride runs out. Especially compared to launching a coaster at 70mph+. Proslide use lim technology on their newer water coasters and while likely higher initial cost to build they are meant to be very energy efficient and again more so than some of their previous methods used on their water coasters.
 
Maelstrom said:
The linear motors involved much less maintenance than other methods. Also power consumption isn’t has high as the technology used to be especially moving a boat at the speed the ride runs out. Proslide use lim technology on their newer water coasters and while likely higher initial cost to build they are meant to be very energy efficient and again more so than some of their previous methods used on their water coasters.
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The thickness of the power cables you can clearly see going to the linear motors in that POV would suggest otherwise.

You are not going to use extra thick, very expensive copper cable if you dont need to. Not to mention, the increased resistance would lower efficiency.

Those cables are thick for a reason, because those linear motors use ALOT of juice.

A very lightweight waterside boat is quite different to a heavy, solid, boat being pushed through the water and not with the water as is usually the case with a waterside.

Plus these Mack boats are buoyant and sit as such in a full body of water, unlike waterslides, which slide on water, meaning even more resistance and power needed to get them moving due to the draft of the boat. Waterslides also have the advantage of the water flowing with the boat to help it and the liner motors.
 
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DistortAMG said:
That would completely defeat the ride system they are going for though I think. You can't have sharp turns and twists with drive belts, it just wouldn't be possible.

I find it interesting how the Mack presentation makes no mentions what so ever of linear motors, however, that POV has LOADS. Something doesnt add up.
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Straight line lift parts can be though. The bit where the boat climbs out the water could easily be conveyored.
 
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