Nemesis: General Discussion

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Skyscraper, 26th Oct 2019.

  1. Dave

    Dave TS Founding Member

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    They definitely used all of the queue, including the extension that became sub-terra’s queue (this was I think the first to go as you have to block off the access road to use it). They got rid of the queue that goes up towards Galactica lift hill when fast track became a thing.
     
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  2. Matt.GC

    Matt.GC TowersStreet Member

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    I do think no longer being able to walk round the top of the pit from every side has taken away from the original feel of the coaster.
     
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    You see I've never walked up there and when I'm queueing for nemesis I get this feeling. A sort of magical but intimidated feeling that I just don't get with anything else. So ut must have felt even better when I opened. I wish I could have experienced it back then.
     
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    On the plus side, at least we don't have to wait 2-3 hours like back in the day.
     
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  5. Rick

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    That's a good shout, the height of the path compared to the loop made it a pretty unique vantage point.
     
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  6. Ethan

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    Poor Nemmy has been shut so far today. General maintenance maybe?
     
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    I had a thought about Nemesis and this whole retracking lark that people were on about earlier.

    If there are particular spots on the ride under more strain than others, then why doesn’t Alton take the approach Blackpool have taken with the Big One and do a more gradual retracking project that replaces high-stress areas of the ride one at a time?

    It would remove the huge initial outlay required for a full retrack, instead making the outlay smaller and more incremental.
     
  8. Steve74

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    I would imagine that because of the track's complexity it would be B&M manufacturing replacement sections rather than a 3rd party engineering firm - which I believe is what happened with the Big One? This, coupled with the complexity of doing the work in the pit, it would make economical sense to do it all in one go - especially if the track is manufactured in the US.
     
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  9. Matt878787

    Matt878787 TowersStreet Member

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    As long as they don’t fill the new box track with sand to appease the locals. The thought of a quiet Nemesis…Just no.
     
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    That annoys me, it has been around for 27 years and Alton Towers has been open as a theme park since 1980. Don't like the sound? Don't move next to a theme park. It's like people who move next door to a pub then complain there are people drinking next to their house

    Edit: gave the ride a younger age
     
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  11. NuttySquirrel

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    The what? :p
     
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    True, but alot of the residents around the area are generational, having lived around the place since long before the theme park existed. Not all, but there is a fair amount.

    Also, in regards to B&M and the track. Claremont is the main fabricator for the US market, they pick up the slack when capacity is pushed at their other fabrication partners around the world, which is why you have seen track destined for other markets being fabricated there. They have a fabricators in China I believe, which mainly serves the Asian market and they do or at least did have a fabricating partner in the European area.

    Claremont wouldnt have been able to keep up with the demand from Asia alone, not even come close, especially when they serve the American market too.

    But to cut it short, saying that every B&M has been manufactured in the USA is simply not true. A few websites online incorrectly report this. But the actual websites which have got interviews or actual business dealings with the plant in Claremont correctly report that they are the fabricators for the US market first and foremost. Producing all of the US rides.
     
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    Yep, that also annoys me. :p
     
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  14. Steve74

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    I do get the whole noise thing, but can you really hear Nemesis from outside of the park boundary? You can hear The Smiler and Oblivion from The Chained Oak B&B which is expected considering they are on the other side of the trees. But where are the houses close to Nemesis? When you take the car park into consideration, you could say Nemesis is nearer the middle of the park rather than the edge.
     
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    You can clearly hear Nemesis from the bottom of the valley, where there are a few houses.
    Could I add that "the" Nemesis is 27, not 17.
    Mr Pedantic is done.
     
  16. NuttySquirrel

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    Has there's been any suggestion that noise reduction is going to be a part of the planned refurb?
     
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    What planned refurb?
     
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  18. MakoMania

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    This is just not correct. When Walter & Claude received the contract for Iron Wolf at SFGA they were unable to fulfill the fabrication process themselves. As such they partnered with Claremont. The quality of their work was so high that B&M never established another fabrication plant, and every B&M coaster in the world has been fabricated there.

    There are many years when North America does not receive a single new B&M coaster. Having a production plant purely for the US/North America makes no sense. The Claremont site serves the world for B&M track and no other track fabrication plants exist.
     
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    It's rumoured. There has never actually been any confirmation of it at all.
     
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  20. NuttySquirrel

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    Sorry, my mistake! Should have said rumoured not planned. Still it looks as though a re-track is on the cards if they're going to keep her going into the future and that seems to be universally agreed. But I'd never heard anything about noise reduction, so was just wondering if there'd been any suggestion that it was being looked into (hopefully not!)
     
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