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Online Pornography to be blocked by default

I saw an excellent metaphor for it before... it's like someone being afraid of the dark, and instead of giving them a nightlight, forcing everyone in the country to keep their lights on all the time.
 
I would be bold and say most people who enjoy porn, do it privately, its a personal thing.

Would those people want to ring up and tell someone "hey I want to watch porn" I would guess not.

So for those people to embarrassed or awkward to ask get screwed over entirely.


Edit: I'm also using a forum called poly count, its a mature 3D modelling community dedicated to teaching and helping the viewer learn 3D art.

There are masses of naked pictures on there, both men woman, fat, thin, dwarf, giant... Ext. What happens to this site?

These images are there to learn from, if you want to be a character sculpter you need to study the human body, know every inch,

A) do these sites get banned!?

B) if not do all the horny pre teens spam such forums because they can't get off any where else!?

I don't see how this is going to accomplish anything except sexual confusion.
 
Another thing that could happen with this however, what will happen when you ask your internet provider to allow you access to porn?

For all you know they may ask you your intentions, why you want to watch it etc... and before you know it you're on some register being monitored by what porn you're viewing.

How does the government decide what is and what isn't porn? Technically Tumblr isn't a porn site, yet a lot of it is made up of porn. What do they do then? Ban the UK from Tumblr? They can hardly ban particular blogs since they would have a couple of 100,000 blogs to go through.

Same with Facebook and Twitter - does 'soft porn' come into this too, how do they decide what is and isn't soft porn? The internet is hardly a small thing, how on earth do they go through millions (probably billions) of websites and ensure a fair system?

All this would end up with is a messed up system where half the sites on the web are banned in the UK. Why can't the government concentrate on something important, like, I don't know... the NHS, the economy, education..
 
Heck they could even ban TS due to the Boobs topic. Utter filth. ;)

Surely it would be better to reverse this system, where households would have to opt-in to block porn. But then like James says, what is porn, check some of the pages on Facebook, and as he rightly said, some of the stuff on there is on the line. Add to that kids thesedays on webcams, instant messaging, Skype etc and some of the stuff they send to each other..... the only people this law will penalise will actually be adults over 18 who are legally entitled to view such content if they choose to.

In fact the ONLY way they could impose this law would be to filter and scan EVERY page we try to download. This would be a serious breach of privacy.
 
David Cameron being more of a clueless fuckwit than usual and Claire Perry MP? being very much like the simpsons cartoon picture above. Im not sure what astounds me more, the governments 19th century mind set to think something like this should be done any more like trying to ban horror films of the 70s, their thinking that any child around their teenage years cant circumvent any filter, the fact any child younger than that shouldnt be totally supervised on the internet anyway, or the fact in the day after this announcement its unworkability and openess to corruption is there for all to see:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/family-filters-wont-block-soft-porn-david-cameron-retreats-in-war-on-internet-porn-admitting-there-will-be-problems-down-the-line-8726991.html

He really is a prize cock, how odd he wont stand up to Murdoch. The fact he decided to make this announcement combined with one about child abuse images and on the same day as the baby announcement shows what a evil little shit he is. Hes had this 1984 censorship buried for him and we all stand idly by and let him do it. The fact he said the block will cover "Other adult material" made me shudder, the sooner this is rolled back and these idiots are out of office the better.

The government has form in this sort of behaviour in the past, it did it with 3G and blocked plenty of things then that we show what its real intentions are, they blocked:

- The Telegraph
- Tor
- Pinknews.co.uk
- exploit-db.com
- ethicalhacker.net
- laquadrature.net (french digital rights group)
- biased-bbc.blogspot.co.uk
- bnp.org
- ehow.com

Porn, yea right

Cant believe I havent even mentioned how stupid they are to think that Paedophiles are using Google (let alone Bing) to access child abuse images is beyond me. And that "Banning search terms" will fix the problem...really...thats what they came up with, the UK govt, with access too web experts etc. Astonishing.

The fact the govt criticised labour for being a overbearing state and they do this stinks of hypocrisy, considering that conservatives are meant to stand for a smaller government. Had I missed the public outcry on porn? Why isnt their filters on babestation and the like? Or does dave count that as soft porn along with Page 3? We are starting the exact same game as corruption, short sighted hypocrisy we did when the govt decided to ban the pirate bay due to the corruption, sorry lobbying from BFI and the such. Ever thought, if copyright law is so important, then why arent the government checking to see who we lend our books too? Because surely the principle is still the same, if I pay for a book and give it to someone else who hasnt then whats the difference?

A horrible infringement of our civil liberties much like the torrent and streaming site blocking, we will soon become a 2 tier internet with those able to pay to have opposition blocked and those who cant. The old establishments are creaking under the innovation of the internet and are showing they are still struggling to change. When 3D printing takes off this will only get worse.

I would encourage everyone on here to get involved with the open rights group and big brother watch, unless you want TST blocked for the boobs topic of course...
 
Cameron has taken our jobs, or welfare, our houses, our money, our food, our healthcare, and now he's after our w***s.
 
I maintain that David Cameron is the most forgettable prime minister ever. I think these outrageous snatches at our privacy are his way of compensating for being the blandest politician the country has ever known.
 
I don't think anyone will be forgetting him for a while. When he's recalled to the mothership there'll be celebrations like there was with Thatcher.
 
If I want to make myself blind over *let's not go there* at 4:30 in the morning, that's not Cameron's business. Do they want to put cameras in people's houses? Every time I buy a pack of tissues will I have to sign a disclaimer saying I promise not to use them as jizz rags?
 
Blaze said:
If I want to make myself blind over *let's not go there* at 4:30 in the morning, that's not Cameron's business. Do they want to put cameras in people's houses? Every time I buy a pack of tissues will I have to sign a disclaimer saying I promise not to use them as jizz rags?
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Honestly, if they ever put cameras in my house I'd actually jizz as often as possible right infront of the camera just so the sad bellends who'd be monitoring the cameras would have to watch it. ;)
 
Cameron is only trying to do these outrageous things so he can live up to the likes of Thatcher. He will never become as known as her though, however much he tries and tries. Bless him.
 
Well here is another bad reason for this stupid blocker

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23452097

It is run and controlled by a Chinese company called Huawei. In the report it suggests that it is worrying giving control of an internet blocker to a company that is rather close to the Chinese government.

I wonder who we write to to complain about this stupid idea.

Handing censorship control to private companies is stupid and dangerous. It will start off as porn then it could then creep to other aspects and other things will start to get blocked.
 
I've noticed Huawei have been growing over here recently.

They're a bit, scary, with their connections to the Chinese government.
 
As much as I don't agree with this as I think it is pointless and ineffectual, what's the problem really?

It already happens with pretty much all mobile phone companies. T-Mobile, Vodafone and Virgin Mobile all know I'm over 18 but each still required me to opt in to adult content to stop their rather overenthusiastic filters stopping me seeing anything saucy or relating to gambling. So I went online and checked the allow access button and now I have it. No hardship on my part and I can now do what I like.

If they were trying to sensor what is actually online then that would be a problem, but just trying to enforce a little age related content restriction is quite sensible in principle even if it likely not to actually work properly.
 
The problem is handing over control of the internet to either a government or to a private company. Once its in it will be very hard to get rid of.

Some point down the line stuff will start getting banned that people care about but its too late by then.
 
Just putting this out there. My bro who is 16, my dad caught him watching porn. Went onto the suber hub settings and blocked websites with keywords to do with porn. This is ridiculous. But I can kind of understand it as everyday I go to school and my "friends" are banging on about the porn films they watched over the weekend. But I do agree opt in, not opt out.
 
This will never work, even if it was blocked by default. It would be pretty simple to use a proxy of some sort to bypass it if you did not want to ring your ISP. Once a website has been set up, it's no more difficult for a child for example to access a certain porn website through a proxy than it would have been if the website was never blocked in the first place. Completely defeating the idea.

Take The Pirate Bay for example, most major UK ISP's were ordered by the high courts to block the website to stop people in the UK from gaining access to it, no doubt, millions of pounds of taxpayers money being wasted in the legal process too. Within days of the biggest ISP's here in the UK blocking the website, the internet traffic accessing the website from the UK actually increased, massively, over 6x it's original figure in fact. This was down to proxy's, and the media attention this high court ruling attracted. You would have thought this would have been a lesson learnt, as well as countless other ones that have preceded it. I thought the big wigs in Government were actually meant to have a shred of intelligence?? Obviously not.

It will be very hard for the internet to be controlled by governments, giving it's current ownership status's concerning network logistics and the likes. Then there is the 'dark internet' completely anonymous and encrypted portion of the internet. Where pretty much everything is untraceable.

The internet has always been 'ours' and not 'theirs'. Government's have tried to control it in the past, and fell flat on their face's each and every time. Nothing will change here, apart from the amount of our cash that's been wasted putting a completely useless system that literally will not work, into place.
 
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