Talbot Street Tuesday/Thursday (Picture Heavy)

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  1. evilcod

    evilcod TowersStreet Member

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    I contacted Zeiss Planetarium Support to see if they could shed any light on this:
    So I thought the next step was to have a hunt for information about it being gifted to the Science Museum, using their collection search tool (https://collection.sciencemuseum.org.uk/) I can only find reference to 2 of the individual projectors being donated:
    https://collection.sciencemuseum.or...r-part-of-the-mark-four-zeis-meteor-projector
    https://collection.sciencemuseum.or...monstration-models-orreries-planetaria-models
    There seems to be no mention of the actual substructure being held by them, could this be what we see in Oblivion's queueline?
     
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    Best part of CatCF was the hilariously over the top performance from the Willy Wonka actor, followed by the TV adverts...

    STOP THE BOAT!
     
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    The best bit of the ride was the music and Willy Wonka. I still remember most of the lines from the ride!

    On to the nut room!!


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    Fascinating stuff. That second record was the one I had seen but I'd missed when it said "part of" the projector. I'm now therefore pretty certain that the Oblivion structure is the substructure from the London Planetarium.

    I reckon the size and shape of the room in which the projector is now suspended creates an optical illusion that the machine is smaller then it really is. If you look at the guy queuing in the back of the TS picture, I could actually see those two projectors being the same size when you take the different angle into account:
    [​IMG]

    In other Planetarium based news, I just stumbled upon this magazine, if you skip to page 133, you'll find yourself towards the end of an article about the London Planetarium and describing a very similar tale of the fate for the Zeiss Projector. Of course, you have to assume that author has confused the Blackhole and Oblivion but he is mid-rant at that point so it seems likely.

    I can however believe the paragraph where someone at Merlin sent him a picture of the Nemesis entrance tower and asked him if this was what he was looking for.
     
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    Well well, it seems that London had a slightly different looking mark IV to that one I posted above. The planet cages look shorter, and the disk at the base of the spheres is wider. Both of which do match what we see today in Oblivion's queue.
    You may be right after all, sir!

    Also of note for lighting geeks in the picture at the start of that pdf (will read through the rest on my commute), are the two mirror balls either side of the support structure. I can only assume these were used in the "Lasarium" shows? I never saw them myself, but I don't recall them in either the public or schools planetarium shows.
     
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    Many a friday night we did the laser show before the late night showing of the RHPS at Baker St cinema next door.
    More people laid out tripping in the aisles and passageways than sat in the reclining seats.
    Last bit was Tangerine Dream to lasers superimposed on the night sky, slowly rotating...amazing show.
    Forty years ago now.
    Sh!t I'm old.
    Cheers for the memories Diogo.

    Edit...they bounced spots and lasers off the glitter balls Diogo.
     
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    What a fantastic piece of equipment to just be sat rusting away in a queue line.
     
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    The only other place it would be of any use is in a museum. It looks great in the queue, it's great technique for scenery to use real 'obscure' objects to look extra bizarre and yet purposeful.

    But what is a real shame is how beaten and unkept it is. For years it's had GAFFA TAPE over where lamps used to flash and the whole building is just in a state. The whole queue has gotten really lame, but it was very cool and different in the past as part of the build up to the ride.
     
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    Clearer photo (credit to Theme Park Incorporated via Google maps)[​IMG]

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    Last week we took a tour of a Chocolate Factory but for this week's Talbot Street Tuesday we instead take a round the world tour.

    Today we take a look back at Around the World in 80 Days, the park's original dark boat ride.

    [​IMG]
     
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    It's very much a shame how most of the Oblivion queue line currently looks, building largely stripped of their theming in place of plastic panelling, the often broken display screens, and for anyone that remembers, the original queue line shop.The theming of this was simply superb, I believe the Black Hole had a similar unit. Does anyone have a photo of this somewhere, I distinctly remember it having support arms that looked as though it could be packed up for storage.

    I suppose we settle for a shipping container these days...
     
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    It was actually the same shop moved funnily enough. The shop is way too early in the queue today to be useful but was a great example of designing the theme into everything rather than just sticking a vinyl sticker on a container.
     
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    It must be too early in the queue as I never notice it

    As a whole there used to be some brilliant themeing - shame really
     
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    It got moved to the Black Hole years ago then when that shut it became derelict. I remember you could still spot it from behind X Sector for years.

    Where it was in Oblivion is now that wide open circle with nothing in it, where the two lanes of the queue split around either side of the shop.
     
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    Here are a couple of photos I took of the old Oblivion/Black Hole queue line shop, taken during the demolition of the Black Hole.

    You can see the detailing on the shop, including little ice lolly logos in the style of the Oblivion station at the top of the shop.
    [​IMG]

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    So THAT'S why there's that random circle diversion...

    Must've moved pre-2001 as I don't remember a shop in the Blivvy queue ever...
     
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    I love how the Black Hole, which wasnt even new at the time of building that queue, had a better and more scenic queueline that actually took you somewhere, than the headline multi million Smiler's queue of eternal misery and soggy feet
     
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    The Oblivion queue line building didn't used to be cladded. Etched into the concrete was "SW4 QLB 001". It's a shame they covered it, as there's just not enough geeky inside trivia at Alton Towers these days.

    Edit to add photo:
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    Credit: Theme Park Review forum
     
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    Since we're talking random paving features - the reason for The Blackhole's strangely scenic queueline was because this was actually the original track for the Vintage Cars. When the cars were moved to the Land of Make Believe, their old track was simply paved over to extend the queue.
     
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