That'll be too high for general wind so that will definitely be gusts then thank youI've got 33 or 34mph in my mind, whether that's gusts or not I don't know
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Danscott22
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I had 34mph in my head but didn't post because it seemed wrong to me. But now you've said it also, it's the figure I was going to go with.I've got 33 or 34mph in my mind, whether that's gusts or not I don't know
Thameslink Rail
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From 2016:
So it was 34 mph pre crash, this is similar to most other coasters I know, I don't know if the max wind speed has changed but I don't see much reason to change it.I don't think this had been stated before but has come out in court today. Before the incident, Gerstlaurer recommended that The Smiler should not be run in winds of 34mph or above. The wind speed on the day of the incident was 46mph.
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That's interesting because the ride ceased operation last year when it hit 20mph, which is why I asked as I wasn't sure what the actual limit is. Does that mean 34mph is referring to gusts and the actual wind speed limit is lowerFrom 2016:
So it was 34 mph pre crash, this is similar to most other coasters I know, I don't know if the max wind speed has changed but I don't see much reason to change it.
Connor98
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if wind speeds are 20mph sustained you will always get gusts over that. For example when meteorologists report on a named storm, they will say wind speeds of 40-50mph with it gusting up to 100mph (only an example). So 20mph reported winds could easily gust over the rides safe operational limits.That's interesting because the ride ceased operation last year when it hit 20mph, which is why I asked as I wasn't sure what the actual limit is. Does that mean 34mph is referring to gusts and the actual wind speed limit is lower
Steve74
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Yeah that's the thing, the rides are closed because of the risk of gusts which could exceed limits, even if the current wind speed is relatively low and possibly within limits.if wind speeds are 20mph sustained you will always get gusts over that. For example when meteorologists report on a named storm, they will say wind speeds of 40-50mph with it gusting up to 100mph (only an example). So 20mph reported winds could easily gust over the rides safe operational limits.
djtruefitt
TS Team
I believe Smiler will shut if the wind is above 32mph, they’ve got the wind alarm panel on the back wall of the op cabin. If it goes red, the ride will shut.
Danscott22
TS Member
Oblivion doesn’t tend to run in high wind anymore either, so make that twoSo we have a coaster that doesn't run in the rain, one that can't run when it's windy.
Anyone know why they've decided to build an indoor coaster next?

AT86
TS Member
So we have a coaster that doesn't run in the rain, one that can't run when it's windy.
Anyone know why they've decided to build an indoor coaster next?
It’ll probably end up being scared of the dark.
In comparison, Blackpool has a woodie that struggles to stop in the rain (Dipper)...A headline coaster (Big One) that stops at the first big gust of wind...at the seaside!
Then add the flying machines and Ice Blast that don't like the wind either.
The smiler is far from alone with having wind issues.
Then add the flying machines and Ice Blast that don't like the wind either.
The smiler is far from alone with having wind issues.
Jb85
TS Member
In comparison, Blackpool has a woodie that struggles to stop in the rain (Dipper)...A headline coaster (Big One) that stops at the first big gust of wind...at the seaside!
Then add the flying machines and Ice Blast that don't like the wind either.
The smiler is far from alone with having wind issues.
Farty coasters......should lay off the curries.
On a serious note, it's not unusual within the industry surely? Just that we've become obsessed with it due to the incident. And also happen to have a ride that hates drizzle on park as well, making this seem a bigger issue then it actually is.
And @Ethan arent gusts and wind the same thing?
Gusts are a bigger blow, and brief, with the wind dropping after, and are intermittent.
Wind is general, and usually average.
My big red kite likes 15mph wind, and has a gust warning!
This weekend hopefully, with our shakey, on the beach, next to the Beach.
And farty coasters...good one...my sort of gag.
Wind is general, and usually average.
My big red kite likes 15mph wind, and has a gust warning!
This weekend hopefully, with our shakey, on the beach, next to the Beach.
And farty coasters...good one...my sort of gag.
Yes but gusts seem to be the issue in regards to x sector. The wind speed could be low but if there are a few strong gusts it'll set off the alarm for the ridesAnd @Ethan arent gusts and wind the same thing
Loui Richards
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Just thought i'd say i'm glad to see the smiler has ran 4 trains this season. watched a few blogs where all trains were being ran. hopefully this remains the way this year! with the baggage hold we could see throughput actually being much better this season!
BenTechy66
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Smiler was a pretty rough ride on Monday; inversion 12 remains as jerky as ever. My non-thoosie friend complained his neck hurt after coming off!
Benjsh
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Smiler was a pretty rough ride on Monday; inversion 12 remains as jerky as ever. My non-thoosie friend complained his neck hurt after coming off!
I find the whole ride silky smooth until that point. Man they really ballsed up that bit didn't they? Eventually I think they are going to have to replace those sections as they will become unbearable over time.
It's on 4 right now. Seen a few videos of 2 going round and 1 waiting outdside the station which means there will be one being loaded in front of it.Monday Smiler was on 3. No need for 4.