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[🌎 Universal GB] Planning, Transport and Infrastructure
Funny you should say that, Tommy Hawkins over on the universal forum seems to think that land may be part of the land Universal have the option to buy to take their acreage up to the 700 they’ve mentioned they could have.
This area In red isn't owned by Universal but has just become prime development land. I could see hotels popping up here there is already roundabout access to the A421
From: https://x.com/tommyhawkins/status/1885726255326154911
It’s the latest post
@Blackrock fascinating thread, I could totally see Universal purchasing this land, it's a perfect spot for third party hotels and accommodation so they could lease it out to various operators allowing them to build new hotels and providing direct access to the theme park. Alternatively it could be used for further theme park development but they already have plenty of land
Maybe, but Bedford Council will be under significant pressure to hit the house building targets that are being set for them by government. Those houses will have to be built somewhere, and with a huge parcel of land purchased by Universal there will be pressure to find space elsewhere in the Borough. The National Planning Inspectorate will expect Bedford Council to make rapid progress on their 2030 development plan now that the Universal deal is confirmed.
Cant see them getting planning permission for a load of houses right next to a theme park. Plenty of other plots on the local area for housing development including sites to the north of the development.
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JT01
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It would be the most stupid decision ever if that was the case to build them right at the gateway to the UK's single biggest tourist attraction. The amount of complaints universal would get. Imagen a whole estate of Ropers lol.
The whole perimeter were possible should be hospitality lead
The whole perimeter were possible should be hospitality lead
Perhaps that’s true, but Bedford will need to build lots more houses somewhere, and they’ll have to indicate where pretty soon. So I’m simply pointing out who currently owns that parcel of land, and what they planned to do with when in discussion with Bedford Council two or three years ago.
flyingguitar
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I can see universal offering to buy this land, it would be good expansion space for a hotel, it prevents noise complaints and it can prevent what happened to disney in California (disney was essentially built in a similar place, with little arround it, but as disney got bigger land arround it was brought up and hotels, shops, tourist stuff, housing etc was built arround it until disney was blocked in on all space (similar to BPB) unable to expand)
edit: I thought, it could be used to allow them to built a city walk area, for orlando that area used to be car parks, but the new multi story car park was built and city walk was added and is very popular
if I was the developer I would keep the land and if universal is sucsesfull they would probably want new land for expansions
edit: I thought, it could be used to allow them to built a city walk area, for orlando that area used to be car parks, but the new multi story car park was built and city walk was added and is very popular
if I was the developer I would keep the land and if universal is sucsesfull they would probably want new land for expansions
GooseOnTheLoose
TS Member
That's not because people are complaining about noise, it's because no one's visiting them.
Because feudalism is always something to aspire to...
JT01
TS Member
No, It's a bit of both, The west end is also suffering from residence complaining about noise, you just need to type in nightclub / pub noise complaints into google search new to see a ton of articles
Sorry, it isn't a bit of both...nightclubs going out of fashion is the problem, large numbers of nightclubs have closed, it is nothing to do with noise, and everything to do with a change in general recreational behaviour and the crippled economy for young people.
They have closed because they aren't covering their costs, not because of noise complaints.
And there are very few residents in the West End, it is a business area, the few people that live there are aware of the noise.
Legal licensed drinking 24 hours a day, online dating and the smoking ban have had a far greater influence on the collapse of the trade, not noise complaints.
All the "Death of the nightclub" articles are out there on the net, not seen any mention noise complaints in them.
They have closed because they aren't covering their costs, not because of noise complaints.
And there are very few residents in the West End, it is a business area, the few people that live there are aware of the noise.
Legal licensed drinking 24 hours a day, online dating and the smoking ban have had a far greater influence on the collapse of the trade, not noise complaints.
All the "Death of the nightclub" articles are out there on the net, not seen any mention noise complaints in them.
Whilst that’s true there’s plenty of big named clubs that have had to battle noise complaints from new neighbours, soho in London has had to deal with the same issues from new neighbours.
Talking from personal experience as bar/club I was managing had noise complaints from people above when we reopened after lockdown. They had moved in over lockdown, gotten used to the silence then complained when everything reopened.
We had to battle that with the council, we won but many aren’t so lucky and if hours are restricted/noise is restricted it makes businesses unviable.
Obviously this isn’t the only reason why clubs are failing but I’m sure what I’ve just said was repeated up and down the country after lockdowns.
If you are already registered as a nightclub, and manage/monitor your own sound levels to the licensing agreements as they originally stood, there is nothing any resident can do, other than complain...and lose.
As in your case.
Clubs are shutting for a number of reasons, mainly economic and lifestyle issues, but not because they are noisy.
Clubs have always been noisy.
Back on topic, I'm sure Universal will manage the noise escaping the site to keep the locals on side.
As in your case.
Clubs are shutting for a number of reasons, mainly economic and lifestyle issues, but not because they are noisy.
Clubs have always been noisy.
Back on topic, I'm sure Universal will manage the noise escaping the site to keep the locals on side.
It’s definitely a bit of both in London at least. There are plenty of bars and clubs that have closed recently citing noise complaints (risen 53% since COVID):
Noise complaints are killing London’s pubs
We mapped the dozens of pubs forced to shut early or that faced closure last year due to everything from “faint giggles” to “constant honking” from cars.
www.the-londoner.co.uk
And one of the best venues in London:
Hackney: We can't survive without making noise - Moth Club manager - BBC News
The Moth Club's team is worried the venue will be shut down if flats are built next door.
www.bbc.co.uk
Perhaps this is less relevant in the rest of the country but I personally know two pub managers in London whose venues have been heavily affected by noise complaints.