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Gullivers Valley

No wonder Legoland and Chessington are always packed if this is what they're competing with.

Looks abysmal.
 
Gulliver's Matlock is far prettier, as is Gulliver's Warrington which also offers a far superior ride selection. If I was to own a mini human, I can't see this being the first place I'd take it.

Good luck to them, but this looks like someone has just built a glorified primary school's play yard in a meadow.
 
Hardly construction is it? Just pitching some wooden fences up, laying tarmac paths and plonking rides in-between.
 
Yet again the forum likes to judge something before it is finished. Lets wait till opening day until the comments of oh this place looks s**t start.

Fair enough with AT we normally get let down but this is a new park from scratch

Remember it is not a park aimed at adults its aimed at families and kids
 
Spark said:
Yet again the forum likes to judge something before it is finished. Lets wait till opening day until the comments of oh this place looks s**t start.

Fair enough with AT we normally get let down but this is a new park from scratch

Remember it is not a park aimed at adults its aimed at families and kids
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It's true that this forum is quick to jump to conclusions about the quality of attractions before they are finished.

We're usually right though.
 
Yeah but it's 99% done. It looks awful and they aren't about to squirt thousands at it to fix it are they?
 
I didn't realise it was quite so close to another Gullivers. Why not just improve on your main product in the region, rather than invest in a new one (at what has turned out to be possibly the worst time possible, incidentally).

Not being snarky, but can someone with a head for maths or tourism attempt to explain it?
 
Plastic Person said:
I didn't realise it was quite so close to another Gullivers. Why not just improve on your main product in the region, rather than invest in a new one (at what has turned out to be possibly the worst time possible, incidentally).

Not being snarky, but can someone with a head for maths or tourism attempt to explain it?
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There are a few challenges with the Gulliver's Kingdom site at Matlock, which to be fair to the team there, they have worked with as best as they can, bringing in some limited accommodation and the like. I think they want the opportunity to do more than the Matlock site allows.

They have had far more free rein to do what they have wanted to do at Milton Keynes and Warrington, given they're both pretty flat sites without too many planning restrictions - those parks have really really blossomed (particularly Warrington, which I would wager is their most profitable) - the hotel there is pretty sweet for their first foray.

They have been pretty clear that they're not trying to cannibalise Gulliver's Kingdom - I guess they think they can offer sufficiently different days at both parks, or that there is enough population in those areas to make both parks work with a similar offering.

The wooden coaster hasn't materialised in this phase, but I am not sure that's all that surprising given the multi-phased plan that they are working toward. It's worth noting that there were plans for an Antelope clone at Gulliver's Land (MK) and they never materialised either.

Reception amongst a bunch of jaded coaster enthusiasts trapped in their houses is inevitably grim, but let's see how a bunch of 5 year olds react to it, much better ... I would suggest.

£37m is not to be sniffed at - there's obviously a plan.
 
Simple explaination...
It is for local little kids.
Primarily for the young family who dont want to travel far for their fun.
Geographically, they have a massive, local market with few other competitors.
They tend to add a few new rides each year to pull in returns...hence what seems like a hundred small rides at Warrington
And Rick, we are only jaded because they havent built the promised/rumoured
woodie.
Get that garden done.
 
Clearly a lot of kids will love this, but what age are we talking about? If this is the demographic who spends longer playing with the wrapping paper than the toy, then they’ve got slightly odd standards. My brother took my two year old niece to Alton Towers and her favourite attraction was a picture of Oopsy Daisy on a fence. Over at Legoland my three year old nephew’s favourite thing was a play area.

Not having kids myself I’m not quite sure how parents judge the success of a day out. Presumably there’s more to it than simply did they have a good time. Otherwise every parent could just take their kid to the nearest theme park and we wouldn’t have them going hundred of miles for Thomas Land, C Beebies Land and Peppa Pig World, or spending thousands of pounds on going to Disney World.

Gullivers have a lot of experience in the industry, particularly with their own demographic. Hopefully they know what they’re doing. It’s perhaps not entirely fair to judge the park before it’s finished, and most parks aren’t at their best when they’re see from above. I think it looks solid for a new kids park, but I wouldn’t see it as a multi-day destination.
 
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