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Thorpe Park: General Discussion

Bit of an odd comment.

It's certainly not a "dodgy roller coaster" and it had been adequately tested. By the sounds of things it's a total freak component failure. Could have happened at any given time, it's impossible to judge without knowing the full details.
Thorpe also haven't disclosed anything to suggest they don't know what they are doing
 
It's not an odd comment, it's just a joke about a broken down roller coaster leading into a debate about the definition of AI. I guess humour's subjective.

In terms of what kind of testing the ride did or didn't receive, I don't think we know, unless someone's involved with the project. The fact it broke after a day arguably suggests it would have benefited from more testing.
 
On the topic of AI, PLCs are definitely 100% NOT AI. It is pre-defined logic, cast in stone. It can be simple (like a roller-coaster) or complex (like a flight control system), but always designed to be deterministic. Where it cannot be deterministic is shuts down or goes into fail-safe. Often there are multiple controllers, and/or replicated controllers for redundancy/confirmation. Replicated PLCs may have different physical inputs testing the same conditions, and in extreme cases may be independently developed.

As for AI, a lot to date has been generative heuristics (e.g. AlphaGo Zero) or large-language model (LLMs, e.g. ChatGPT). The benefit of PLCs is that you can formally (mathematically) prove it, which is not possible with AI.
 
Unfortunately the visible sections of the M25 to hyperia are not the current trouble points, but there are good views from the Chertsey junction from the bridge if you get off there….
 
Bennobo said:
Bit of an odd comment.

It's certainly not a "dodgy roller coaster" and it had been adequately tested. By the sounds of things it's a total freak component failure. Could have happened at any given time, it's impossible to judge without knowing the full details.
Thorpe also haven't disclosed anything to suggest they don't know what they are doing
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Hmmm bit of a coincidence it happens after one day of operation. It certainly felt like a rushed opening to be honest. Hopefully it is just a faulty component rather than some sort of design flaw.
 
I’m hoping Hyperia reopens on Saturday, and by my own visit on 10th June.

From what I’ve seen, I think it could go either way at the moment… but I do think that a Saturday reopening is still very possible. They’ve got one last day with the crane today, which would in theory leave two days to test the ride before Saturday. Given that the ride was tested comprehensively before it opened, I think this should probably be enough.

I’m currently taking the view that “no news is good news”… given that Thorpe Park have not pushed the 8th June date back yet, I’m inclined to believe that all is hopefully going to plan so far.

Thorpe Park will surely want the ride open as soon as possible. I can’t imagine they’d be hanging about unnecessarily given that this is their big “new for 2024” draw.
 
At a guess, chain guide removed so chain can be raised to free it from the sprocket. Maybe sprocket failure also caused guide damage if chain was grinding against the guide?? Can't see it opening on Saturday....
 
I can’t quite tell whether the timing of my upcoming visit on Monday will be incredibly lucky or incredibly unlucky… I can sense that I’ll either be incredibly lucky in being able to ride it only a couple of days at most after it reopens, or I’ll be incredibly unlucky in missing its reopening by a matter of days.

I think a Hyperia ride for me is possible, but it’ll be tight; I’m basically banking on everything going to plan in the next couple of days!
EDIT: In a potentially promising development, I’m hearing word that they have already loaded one of the trains with water dummies, so I think they’ll be starting to test as soon as they physically can.
 
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