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Paultons Park: General Discussion

Drayton manor were really the only park to replace the same type of rides with each other.
Stormforce 10 replaced the log flume
G force replaced the Klondike gold mine
Excalibur replaced the jungle cruise
Pandemonium replaced the Skyflyer
 
Paw Patrol will arguably be a like for like replacement of Scorpion Express though!

I think the circumstances for a park to do like for like replacements must be very rare. They’d either retheme or retrack if the ride was deemed worthy of retaining beyond existing maintenance.

Most attractions tend to last many many decades, by the time they reach the end of their lifespan technology, tastes and economics will have changed.

Danse Macabre at Efteling is a good example, it retains the essence of its predecessor but is a completely new ride that will hopefully last many decades. Bringing it back to Paultons, log flumes have become an outdated ride type in the UK for a variety of reasons so a new one seems unlikely.
The one example I know of a park replacing a Log Flume in recent years is Phantasialand with Chiapas which replaced their two Mack flumes.

Could it be a Log Flume? Possibly but I don't think it's going to be what Raging River was. Any type of water ride they bring in will likely offer a substantial upgrade to Raging River and Splash Lagoon if it is to be a flume style ride (counting shoot the chutes, water coasters, rocking boats and super flumes in addition to the more traditional flumes).

When replacing rides it really needs to be a similar thrill level to what it is replacing. Either on the same site or elsewhere.
That's probably why I'm thinking they're going with another water ride instead of settling with Splash Lagoon
 
Like for like ride replacements aren't common.

Alton Towers' Log Flume was replaced by Wicker Man and Thorpe Park's Loggers Leap was replaced by Hyperia. Neither park currently has a log flume.

Wild Mouse at Blackpool was replaced with a set of fountains, and doesn't have a wild mouse. Temple of Mayhem at Chessington World of Adventures is being replaced by an indoor dark coaster.

The 2027 project at Paulton's is replacing both a go-kart track and a drop tower, but that doesn't mean that they're about to get immediate replacements for those attractions either.
But equally you could say that Zodiac at Thorpe Park was replaced with a newer Enterprise in 2006 (relocated from Drayton), the Beastie at Alton Towers was replaced with Octonauts a few years later, the Jumping Bean and Jumping Jack drop towers at Paultons were replaced with the more modern Water and Windmill Towers (albeit in a different location), Nemesis was replaced with Nemesis Reborn, Drayton Manor’s old log flume was replaced with Stormforce 10, Flamingo Land’s log flume was replaced with Lost River Ride.

Like for like replacements aren’t as uncommon as you’re suggesting. I certainly don’t think a new, more modern log flume at Paultons should be ruled out on the basis on it being like for like.
 
I rode Biberberg at Familypark in Austria last week, a modern intamin log flume with a lift (like Speed at Energylandia), a backwards drop and section, and the final drop being almost coaster esque as you end up with an airtime hill before the final splash down. Modern two across seating with individual restraints as well.
Throw in some viking animatronics instead of some beavers and its a perfect fit for the Paultons new area.


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It also shouldn't be considered a "logical" certainty either, as suggested by the OP, was more my point.
It certainly isn’t the only logical replacement. There’s plenty of other options that would make logical sense, but I also don’t think that installing a new log flume would be illogical either.

The examples you mentioned of parks where log flumes have been removed and replaced with coasters (namely Thorpe and Alton) are somewhat different cases to Paultons. Both have rapids rides. Thorpe has another major water ride in the form of Tidal Wave as well. Paultons however, is left with only a kids log flume and an inflatable boats racing slide for their water rides.

When we consider: A. The popularity of Raging River Ride, and B. The fact that Paultons now has no major water rides to fill that gap, I’d argue that a log flume of some form is a pretty logical and sensible decision, and something which I’d not be at all surprised to see.
 
The examples you mentioned of parks where log flumes have been removed and replaced with coasters (namely Thorpe and Alton) are somewhat different cases to Paultons. Both have rapids rides. Thorpe has another major water ride in the form of Tidal Wave as well. Paultons however, is left with only a kids log flume and an inflatable boats racing slide for their water rides.

Technically there are several other water rides (plus 2 splash parks), arguably not "major" rides but the two in Peppa Pig World are naturally very popular.

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It certainly isn’t the only logical replacement. There’s plenty of other options that would make logical sense, but I also don’t think that installing a new log flume would be illogical either.

The examples you mentioned of parks where log flumes have been removed and replaced with coasters (namely Thorpe and Alton) are somewhat different cases to Paultons. Both have rapids rides. Thorpe has another major water ride in the form of Tidal Wave as well. Paultons however, is left with only a kids log flume and an inflatable boats racing slide for their water rides.

When we consider: A. The popularity of Raging River Ride, and B. The fact that Paultons now has no major water rides to fill that gap, I’d argue that a log flume of some form is a pretty logical and sensible decision, and something which I’d not be at all surprised to see.
I'd have to agree with @Enter Valhalla and say that logically, Paultons would be smart to bring in their signature water ride for 2027.

The park hasn't got anything to the same sort of scale as Raging River anymore and has never had something larger than a fairground flume.

I'd say it's a big opportunity to bring in something that could be one of the park's most popular rides.

With Alton Towers specifically, it's often commented by both enthusiasts and the general public that a flume is really missed.

With Thorpe Park, it depends on if Tidal Wave is in working order 😂
 
What Paultons Park really needs is more indoor rides for when weather is not so good some like a Breakdance 5 would fit Paultons well. or another tracked dark ride.

Ghostly Manor is their only indoor ride. Really falls in comparison to other Major UK parks which have 2-5 Dark Rides
 
What Paultons Park really needs is more indoor rides for when weather is not so good some like a Breakdance 5 would fit Paultons well. or another tracked dark ride.

Ghostly Manor is their only indoor ride. Really falls in comparison to other Major UK parks which have 2-5 Dark Rides
There is a space between the carpark and Tornado springs that would be ideal for another indoor ride/ building. It could be a ride extension to the Tornado springs area.
 
What Paultons Park really needs is more indoor rides for when weather is not so good some like a Breakdance 5 would fit Paultons well. or another tracked dark ride.

Ghostly Manor is their only indoor ride. Really falls in comparison to other Major UK parks which have 2-5 Dark Rides

All UK parks need more indoor rides, it's mad they don't other than Legoland.

Paultons do seem one of the most capable at operating in adverse conditions though, with some high wind tolerances transparently advertised. Not great for passengers looking for sheltered experiences admittedly. Drakon will likely be at the higher end at least considering Rage at Southend seems to operate in near hurricanes, embodying the spirit of Jim Rowland (one for @rob666 )

32 mph
Cobra

35 mph
Flight of the Pterosaur
Velociraptor
Windy Castle
The Queen’s Flying Coach Ride
Cyclonator
Storm Chaser
Rio Grande Train
Selected areas in the gardens

40 mph
Peppa’s Big Balloon Ride
Miss Rabbit’s Helicopter Flight
Splash Lagoon
Sky Swinger
Farmyard Flyer
Edge
Windmill Towers
Buffalo Falls (this ride may close at lower wind speeds based on wind direction)

50 mph
Pirate Ship
 
All UK parks need more indoor rides, it's mad they don't other than Legoland.

Paultons do seem one of the most capable at operating in adverse conditions though, with some high wind tolerances transparently advertised. Not great for passengers looking for sheltered experiences admittedly. Drakon will likely be at the higher end at least considering Rage at Southend seems to operate in near hurricanes, embodying the spirit of Jim Rowland (one for @rob666 )

32 mph
Cobra

35 mph
Flight of the Pterosaur
Velociraptor
Windy Castle
The Queen’s Flying Coach Ride
Cyclonator
Storm Chaser
Rio Grande Train
Selected areas in the gardens

40 mph
Peppa’s Big Balloon Ride
Miss Rabbit’s Helicopter Flight
Splash Lagoon
Sky Swinger
Farmyard Flyer
Edge
Windmill Towers
Buffalo Falls (this ride may close at lower wind speeds based on wind direction)

50 mph
Pirate Ship
Very True we could use more Dark Rides Legoland has the most followed by Towers.

Not sure Drakon will be pleasant in a torrential downpour due to Vertical Lift Hill
 
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Let's not make out that parks in Europe don't have bad weather and Thier coasters seems to do fine
That's because they have the right kind of bad weather. We consistently have the wrong kind of bad weather.

The wrong type of rain, the wrong sort of snow, leaves on the line. We've got 200 years worth of weather related excuses to use for why vehicles can't move along rails or tracks. We're British!
 
All UK parks need more indoor rides, it's mad they don't other than Legoland.

Paultons do seem one of the most capable at operating in adverse conditions though, with some high wind tolerances transparently advertised. Not great for passengers looking for sheltered experiences admittedly. Drakon will likely be at the higher end at least considering Rage at Southend seems to operate in near hurricanes, embodying the spirit of Jim Rowland (one for @rob666 )

32 mph
Cobra

35 mph
Flight of the Pterosaur
Velociraptor
Windy Castle
The Queen’s Flying Coach Ride
Cyclonator
Storm Chaser
Rio Grande Train
Selected areas in the gardens

40 mph
Peppa’s Big Balloon Ride
Miss Rabbit’s Helicopter Flight
Splash Lagoon
Sky Swinger
Farmyard Flyer
Edge
Windmill Towers
Buffalo Falls (this ride may close at lower wind speeds based on wind direction)

50 mph
Pirate Ship
It’s worth bearing in mind that Paultons has a lot of quite short and (relatively) tame rides, which may be less affected by adverse weather than some of the larger rides at, say, Thorpe Park.
 
All UK parks need more indoor rides, it's mad they don't other than Legoland.

Paultons do seem one of the most capable at operating in adverse conditions though, with some high wind tolerances transparently advertised. Not great for passengers looking for sheltered experiences admittedly. Drakon will likely be at the higher end at least considering Rage at Southend seems to operate in near hurricanes, embodying the spirit of Jim Rowland (one for @rob666 )

32 mph
Cobra

35 mph
Flight of the Pterosaur
Velociraptor
Windy Castle
The Queen’s Flying Coach Ride
Cyclonator
Storm Chaser
Rio Grande Train
Selected areas in the gardens

40 mph
Peppa’s Big Balloon Ride
Miss Rabbit’s Helicopter Flight
Splash Lagoon
Sky Swinger
Farmyard Flyer
Edge
Windmill Towers
Buffalo Falls (this ride may close at lower wind speeds based on wind direction)

50 mph
Pirate Ship
I'm genuinely interested how Pirate Ship can operate at 50 mph when Mr Monkey's Banana Ride which is a similar ride and size can operate up to 35mph 🤔🤔🤔

 
Blackpool has more Dark Rides than Alton Towers.

Adventure Island and Fantasy Island have more indoor attractions too.
Don't want to go too off topic but Blackpool has 3 Dark Rides Ghost Train, Wallace, Gromit Thrill O Matic and Alice in Wonderland unless you count Valhalla which consider more water ride then it has 4. Same amount as Towers that has 4 rides.

Fantasy Island has 4 Dark Rides to.

The main point being is Paultons needs more Dark Rides as they only have 2.

Like I really think Paultons should redo the Entrance way its not well themed and sticks out in the park you could fit an indoor Coaster as the entrance way Coaster.
 
The main point being is Paultons needs more Dark Rides as they only have 2.
What is the second one? Apologies if I’m missing something obvious, but I can only think of Ghostly Manor!
 
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