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[🌎 Universal GB] General Discussion

Skyscraper said:
Speculation time... Could the supposed Jurassic coaster be a Mack Extreme Spinner? đź‘€


From: https://youtu.be/3H1y22NDS4s?si=TFsdKlTB8nWo6-hT


This video raises some good points as to why it could be the case, including how one of the elements in the concept art appears to be similar to one found on Ride to Happiness.
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I think reading a lot into the concept art is risky. They have only just employed a ton of designers to work on the project so that concept art might represent the broad direction but things are highly likely to change.

I suspect when it comes to the coasters they will still be tendering the contracts so multiple vendors will be bidding for each coasters project at the moment.
 
Skyscraper said:
Speculation time... Could the supposed Jurassic coaster be a Mack Extreme Spinner? đź‘€


From: https://youtu.be/3H1y22NDS4s?si=TFsdKlTB8nWo6-hT


This video raises some good points as to why it could be the case, including how one of the elements in the concept art appears to be similar to one found on Ride to Happiness.
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It’s raining in the video, which really legitimises it as a UK coaster for me.

Looks brilliant, too.
 
I think believing the coaster is going to be one of the rarest models out there based on a single element is grasping at straws. Especially as the coaster itself looks like it's not the finalised one - it's vague and lacking detail. We've seen people believe it's a flying coaster or a wing coaster, this feels like someone wishing for a Xtreme Spinner and see that in the design, nothing more, nothing less.

Until they drop a more refined concept art, I think we'll all be grasping at straws when it comes to that coaster.
 
xtpower said:
I think believing the coaster is going to be one of the rarest models out there based on a single element is grasping at straws. Especially as the coaster itself looks like it's not the finalised one - it's vague and lacking detail. We've seen people believe it's a flying coaster or a wing coaster, this feels like someone wishing for a Xtreme Spinner and see that in the design, nothing more, nothing less.

Until they drop a more refined concept art, I think we'll all be grasping at straws when it comes to that coaster.
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Whilst this is all true, we're probably not going to know anything for another 3-4 years (if not more, sob) so i think it's harmless fun to speculate in the meantime and it's quite nice when someone goes to the effort of creating something so visual!

It's also not that wild a suggestion considering two of the coasters at the most recent Universal park (Epic) were made by Mack and one is a launched spinning coaster. For it to be an Extreme variant when the other major coaster in the park already looks rather intense does seem unlikely but i suppose that ultimately depends on the other park offerings.
 
Bowser said:
Whilst this is all true, we're probably not going to know anything for another 3-4 years (if not more, sob) so i think it's harmless fun to speculate in the meantime and it's quite nice when someone goes to the effort of creating something so visual!

It's also not that wild a suggestion considering two of the coasters at the most recent Universal park (Epic) were made by Mack and one is a launched spinning coaster. For it to be an Extreme variant when the other major coaster in the park already looks rather intense does seem unlikely but i suppose that ultimately depends on the other park offerings.
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There's been much speculation that the BTTF coaster will be the intamin spinning model to lessen the intensity of that first inversion. Universal aren't the types to outfit their park with two very specific niche coaster types (spinning). But again this is all speculation and none of us know anything.
 
xtpower said:
We've seen people believe it's a flying coaster or a wing coaster, this feels like someone wishing for a Xtreme Spinner and see that in the design, nothing more, nothing less.

Until they drop a more refined concept art, I think we'll all be grasping at straws when it comes to that coaster.
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We've also seen people believe that it's going to be themed to Back to the Future...
xtpower said:
There's been much speculation that the BTTF coaster
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GooseOnTheLoose said:
We've also seen people believe that it's going to be themed to Back to the Future...
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*shrugs* I want to believe it's gonna be a BTTF coaster and the evidence is far more substantial in that regard than any speculation about coaster models, especially for the green coaster which is as vague as they come. But sure I'm a hypocrite, it is what it is.

The BTTF Coaster speculation has both a trademark and visual details that are carbon-copies from the movies (the facade shape). The green coaster is just a vague green coaster layout.
 
Thanks to Alicia over on insideuniversal for sniffing it out. The Universal website ( http://www.universalukproject.co.uk) has post a press release about the company in charge of sewage infrastructure and an on-site power substation.


So I guess that puts to bed the murmurings about Universal overwhelming the local sewage system when everyone goes for a #2.
 
xtpower said:
Thanks to Alicia over on insideuniversal for sniffing it out. The Universal website ( http://www.universalukproject.co.uk) has post a press release about the company in charge of sewage infrastructure and an on-site power substation.


So I guess that puts to bed the murmurings about Universal overwhelming the local sewage system when everyone goes for a #2.
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But I was looking forward to another 5 years of toilet talk :-/ on the plus side as an EV driver I’ll get to endure many, many conversations about how there’s not enough electricity in the universe itself to power this EV hub and associated infrastructure.

Appointed main contractor notice is when it will really get juicy.
 
Benzin said:
Still time for it to go all HS2.
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If this was an all British project then yes, but this being an international (mostly American) backed project then I'm sure we won't get an HS2 here which off topic really should have gone all the to either Manchester or Leeds but I digress.
 
QTXAdsy said:
If this was an all British project then yes, but this being an international (mostly American) backed project then I'm sure we won't get an HS2 here which off topic really should have gone all the to either Manchester or Leeds but I digress.
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If you think the Americans are better at building big infrastructure projects that us Brits, I suggest you look up projects like the high speed rail in California or the extensions to the New York Subway.

But either way, I think Universal is a different situation as basically all on one contained site, and they have lots of (recent) experience at ground up park construction. I’m sure there will be snags, but this is a private sector project and they are much better at stopping costs from snowballing.
 
If there is a large economic crash in the next year or so, as many clever papers seem to think may happen, big projects like this, in the early stages, often go bust.
 
havaska said:
If you think the Americans are better at building big infrastructure projects that us Brits, I suggest you look up projects like the high speed rail in California or the extensions to the New York Subway.
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Both of those are government led infrastructure projects. The US federal and state governments have been notoriously allergic to delivering major infrastructure on time or on budget since the ink dried on the New Deal.

Universal, however, is a division of Comcast. They're a ruthlessly efficient capitalist machine. They managed to build Epic Universe, a park significantly more complex than anything currently existing in Europe, in a Florida swamp in roughly four years, despite a global pandemic interrupting the supply chain.

When it's private equity on the line, and shareholders to answer to, concrete tends to get poured significantly faster than when it is subject to the whims of a Senate committee or a Transport Secretary.
Benzin said:
Still time for it to go all HS2.
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The reason HS2 has severe delays isn't because British engineers don't know how to build a railway, but rather because politicians kept changing the scope, pausing the funding and arguing about the route. Universal doesn't have that problem. They have the land, they have the money and, thanks to the SDO, they have the permission.

The only thing that will stop this going "full HS2" is if Comcast decides they would rather spend the money buying another TV network instead.
 
Comparing a project like this to HS2 is just wrong. USGB is in one area, and is being build by the private sector, most towns and cities will have things being build quite regularly do they not?

HS2 covered significantly more land, had much more resistance (unfounded in many cases) and was being run by the public sector.
 
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