Preparing for a possible next major World War

[rob666]

The military have never, ever, wanted conscription.
Causes no end of hassle, AWoL, and unwilling soldiers.

They want people who actually want to go into the forces, simple as that.

Nobody got signed up with the Falklands, even though I did get some very dodgy correspondence from the MoD.

 

[Bowser]

If we suddenly become at war with another country, people aged 18-30 are getting called up whether they are signed up or not

Ukraine was mobilising men up to age 60 so you might not be getting out of it.

 

[rob666]

Still safe!

 

[Josh555]

All good stuff. But what if too many of the farmers sell off their land and move to Greece or Spain? Less food security and we're in a worse position than before. It's fine if we think that our government will put together a plan to take over these lands or start new farms elsewhere. But would they?

Be harder for them to do that since they all voted for brexit.

There’s an irony there somewhere.

 

[BarryZola]

Be harder for them to do that since they all voted for brexit.

There’s an irony there somewhere.

You say that, but a lot of countries have exemptions for people to move there permanently if they have over a certain amount of money in the bank. Anyone with a large farm would be loaded if they sold their land, vehicles and other equipment.

 

[rob666]

Half of farmers are tenants, they don't own the land, and like so many others, lease their vehicles.
Two thirds of our farmland is tenanted, the land often owned by the very rich and royal...like large chunks of Devon, and My beloved Ribble Valley in Lancashire.
The rich farm owners are often not the people actually running them.

 

[BarryZola]

Half of farmers are tenants, they don't own the land, and like so many others, lease their vehicles.
Two thirds of our farmland is tenanted, the land often owned by the very rich and royal...like large chunks of Devon, and My beloved Ribble Valley in Lancashire.
The rich farm owners are often not the people actually running them.

I wasn't aware that so many were tenants, so I've learned something there. With that in mind, for the purposes of my earlier point, I meant the ones with large farms that actually own the land outright

 

[Slackjawedyokel]

Be harder for them to do that since they all voted for brexit.

There’s an irony there somewhere.

It’s a common misconception. Around 54% of farmers voted for Brexit compared to around 52% of the general population.

Personally I voted remain but weirdly a visit to the European Parliament in Brussels (it’s free and I’d encourage anyone to do it) left me feeling less pro-EU than I had been previously.

 

[Slackjawedyokel]

You say that, but a lot of countries have exemptions for people to move there permanently if they have over a certain amount of money in the bank. Anyone with a large farm would be loaded if they sold their land, vehicles and other equipment.

Already happening I’d say, and the larger the landowner, the more twitchy they’re getting.

Locally, the Duke’s son has sold his 9500ac estate, described in the sale particulars as:

“the single largest ringfenced carbon offsetting opportunity to come to the open market in England”.

to a wildlife group. So I suppose that food production won’t be a priority there.

I think the vendor lives in Monaco, at least for tax purposes.

Rothbury Estate in Northumberland sold to Wildlife Trusts

Northumberland Wildlife Trust says the Rothbury Estate, which has 12 farms, will be managed for nature.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Hid]

Farmers are a funny.bunch they vote Tories mainly who screw them over every time they are in power and when Labour fix any of there issues on stufd they still complain and vote Tory anyway.

Its like the Inheritance Tax debacle which was increased to prevent the loop hole to get people out of paying tax