2020: General Discussion

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Danny, 20th Nov 2019.

  1. spinba11

    spinba11 TowersStreet Member

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    I had a video on my YouTube channel that showed the car rocking in the low bit before the 2nd MCBR with 2 staff members on which I filmed.
     
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  2. WillPS

    WillPS TowersStreet Member

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    I'm pretty sure Spinball valley'd once or twice in its first year.
     
  3. spinba11

    spinba11 TowersStreet Member

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    The times I saw it was on a Monday and Tuesday in 2009.
     
  4. skyscraper

    skyscraper TowersStreet Member

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    Have you still got it?
     
  5. spinba11

    spinba11 TowersStreet Member

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    No. I deleted it a few months ago for some reason, all it showed was the car rocking backwards and forwards, the video stopped as the Estop was pressed.
     
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    skyscraper TowersStreet Member

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    According to the app it's "queue at capacity" for Smiler currently. Interesting that they've put it on the app.
     
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  7. Dave

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    Allowing single riders to take a car to themselves is completely illogical. That’s called the main queue, the single rider queue isn’t there to make people who are riding alone less uncomfortable whilst queuing or provide alternative free fast track, it’s there to fill gaps on the ride caused by odd numbers of groups.

    If you can’t put two social bubbles in a car you can’t do this, so the single riders queue is the main queue with everyone else.
     
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    evilcod TowersStreet Member

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    I think the point is that at the moment people who want/need to ride by themselves cannot even if they queue in the main queueline since a car cannot be sent with only one rider and they cannot car share due to social distancing, nothing to do with the "Single Riders Queue". Though I may have got the wrong end of the stick
     
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  9. Dave

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    Ahh fair enough
     
  10. skyscraper

    skyscraper TowersStreet Member

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    Apparently Rita had two rollbacks yesterday and has been down all morning today. More and more evidence to remove it. :p
     
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    Thameslink Rail TowersStreet Member

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    How would Rita rollback?
     
  12. skyscraper

    skyscraper TowersStreet Member

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    Probably launched below normal speed and stalled on the first hill I assume. I didn't think that was possible either tbh.
     
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    It always surprises me that Rita is one of the most common rides to stall at Towers, as I seem to remember it stalling a few years back!

    It’s a pretty fast coaster, at just over 61mph, and the actual height difference between the highest point and the lowest point can’t be that big, as even the lowest point of Rita is surely elevated a good 10-15ft above ground level (at least) and it’s only 68ft tall at its highest point, so with its speed and height, there must be some serious failure of the launch system or some serious gusts of wind required for it to roll back!

    Admittedly, it’s not the ride most prone to stalling at Towers (The Smiler has stalled numerous times in its batwing element, including one time that we all know about which had disastrous consequences), but The Smiler stalling at that point is quite understandable, as that’s quite far into the first half of the layout (meaning that the train will naturally have lost momentum) and is a pretty high element, so a gust of wind in the wrong direction at the wrong time could easily cause a stall there. I find Rita much more perplexing, however...
     
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  14. imanautie

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    Press a red button at the right time on basically any launch coaster and it will rollback or stall somewhere.
     
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    Didn't Rita stall at the end of the launch or something a few years ago?
     
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    It did indeed, back in about 2017, I think.
     
  17. Swarm Chris

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    Rita is also the only coaster at Towers that can adjust the launch speed. If it's gets the adjustment wrong it won't make it over the highest point.

    However, Rita doesn't exactly creep through the highest point, so having a rollback at all is certainly odd.

    Should be noted that Stealth's hydraulics had to be replaced last year. Rita might be facing a similar situation soon, presuming it hasn't already happened during a closed season.
     
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    For any season/annual pass holders that have been unable to book £1 tickets, it looks like another load of tickets have been released over the next couple of weeks which were previously unavailable.
     
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    Its the difference between launched coasters and gravity momentum coasters. Most coasters start at their highest point (after the lift hill) therefore just roll down and up and down again. Launched coasters can start at a lowpoint so if there is a malfunction with the launch mechanism it won't make it up over the highest point.
    To some extent it would be the same if I lift hill chain broke, but there are anti-rollbacks (and there are in a different way on launced coasters).
     
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  20. Dave

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    One of the main ways Rita stalls is because the catch car disconnects early. Once the launch dog engages with the catch car and the train does that slow rock forwards and backwards the only thing keeping the dog engaged is the weight of the train. If the launch isn’t smooth the dog can retract and once it does it won’t engage again (it’s designed to lock quickly away from the catch car so in the event of a roll back it doesn’t smash back into the catch car).

    The alternative is the system loses pressure, I’m pretty sure once the launch sequence is active an emergency stop doesn’t actually guarantee to stop the launch.

    Rita rolls back less frequently as it takes the highest point at speed unlike the top hat models which tend to creep over at a slower speed and therefore have a small margin of error.
     
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