into thrill rides when i was around 12/13. 
Don't get confused by the term "iconic" It's earned over time. Corkscrew was probably at one point the most "Iconic" rollercoaster in England despite being an off the shelf job.The disrespect you lot give to smiler and wicker. I agree that Nemesis is definitely the most iconic ride but wouldn't you say the other 2 are just important for what they've brought to the park. Wicker was such a big investment
Why must you compare and one up at every possible moment? All we can be sure of now is that Nemesis, after 28 years of operation, is closing tonight to receive a full track replacement over the next year. Thankfully, I doubt The Smiler will make it to even half of that milestone before it rips itself apart - and there's certainly no prospect of a similar treatment there!The disrespect you lot give to smiler and wicker
Well thats only 5 years away now
Thing I found out in coaster circles that anything that isn't a B&M or Mack ride is always treated with disdain though TBF, it isn't really a surprise given the reputation of this companies such as Vekoma and their SLC's, Arrow Looping coasters or Pinfari for just...being Pinfari. We can be a right snobby bunch at timesThe disrespect you lot give to smiler and wicker
Nemesis is iconic because it's the ride that not only made JW's career but also made Towers the park it is today. It would be very different without both of them.Thing I found out in coaster circles that anything that isn't a B&M or Mack ride is always treated with disdain though TBF, it isn't really a surprise given the reputation of this companies such as Vekoma and their SLC's, Arrow Looping coasters or Pinfari for just...being Pinfari. We can be a right snobby bunch at times
Out of pure interest, what makes you reject the idea of a Smiler retrack with such certainty? Smiler is a very popular ride, it’s unique, you arguably couldn’t fit a more ambitious ride into the space, and it would surely be no more complicated to deconstruct and reconstruct than Nemesis, no? I know people talk about Smiler’s supports, but Nemesis’ supports are no picnic themselves; I believe that it’s already had supports replaced during its lifetime due to subsidence, and that pit is bound to be complicated to deconstruct and reconstruct supports within.
I don’t personally agree. I think it does have strong appeal with the public and could be seen as “iconic”. 9 years on from opening, 7 years on from the accident, and 4 years on from its successor as the park’s newest coaster opening, it does still seem to have considerable popularity and pull among the wider park visiting populace. It isn’t particularly new anymore, yet I’d argue that it is still among the park’s biggest draws for the wider park-visiting populace.
Yeah I'm not doubting it's popularity or anything. I quite like it and a lot of people love it.
It'll be straight after the fireworks end I believe, on the lawns. I'm guessing it'll be about Sub Terra coming back, along the lines of "Nemesis has escaped so we need to do some experiments at the Phalanx lab".Back to Nemesis, I'm intrigued to see what the Phalanx have to say after the fireworks tonight and what's happening in Forbidden Valley from about 7pm is it? If the announcement is that it's re-opening then
This would be clever, but I won't get my hopes up.
What he meant was that those who experienced Nemesis during their childhood can't respect other rides the same as nemmy was their baby.
