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[2024] Voltron Nevera | Mack Stryker Coaster

Mack have always had a reputation for keeping to tried and tested ride systems. They rarely made anything fancy, but you could trust what you were buying. Seems like the last few years, they have looked at what Intamin are up to and said "halt mien bier". Of course, I can't pass a fair judgement until I have been on one of these new Macks..... and therein lies the rub: They aren't making me rush to ride them.
 
I think they've sorted it now.

Had several rides in June and then again in October last year. Had a couple of shockers, and a few more borderline uncomfortable rides.

In May this year had double figure rides and all of them were perfect. There's still a slight rattle but it doesn't take anything away from the ride.
 
DiogoJ42 said:
The more I hear about Voltron the less I care about rushing off to ride it.
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Voltron is worth visiting the park for alone, I have not been on anything like it.

Whether it turns out to be the greatest coaster you have ever been on, and the worst, only you can say.

I am just trying to work out, how to get back to Europa Park. There is a golf tournmament Annabelle has qualified in October in Munich, but I am running low on holiday days.
 
Bowser said:
Voltron sounds like it’s the most polarising coaster out there!

Interesting that another contender is Hyperia and they’re the same manufacturer.

That and the apparent decline of B&M, I wonder has something actually changed or is it people’s expectations have been raised?
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I wonder if the arrival of RMC on the scene of the last decade or so has changed people's perceptions. You can go on an extremely crazy coaster like Steel Vengeance or Wildcat's Revenge and it is as smooth as glass.

If Voltron was as bad as some people appear to make out, you can be sure it would not be getting the queues that it does! Consistently one of the longest queue times on park whilst also having one of the highest throughputs of any ride on park.
 
I had 14 rides on Voltron back in may, weirdly enough 7 on the front row, 6 on row 3 and one back row ride. I would happily lap it on front row all day, however that 3rd row is unbearable for me personally to the point of having 4 back to back 3rd row rides throughout the day left me with a migraine and a trapped nerve in my neck which cut our day short by 4 hours! I've never been more uncomfortable on a ride than it was with voltron 3rd row wing seat to the point that queueing up again was actively making me anxious about getting that seat.

When we eventually go back i will obviously go on it again but the thought of just carrying on through the station straight into the exit if I get assigned row 3 has seriously crossed my mind. The inconsistency is real and this many people cannot be wrong...

There are rougher coasters out there of course but the vibrations coupled with a wing seat and just the pure intensity of the ride aren't a good combo!
 
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DiogoJ42 said:
Mack have always had a reputation for keeping to tried and tested ride systems. They rarely made anything fancy, but you could trust what you were buying. Seems like the last few years, they have looked at what Intamin are up to and said "halt mien bier". Of course, I can't pass a fair judgement until I have been on one of these new Macks..... and therein lies the rub: They aren't making me rush to ride them.
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Crazy how the same has happened to B&M....sort of. Maybe other factors are at play.
 
venny said:
The issue most of us are talking around is that the ride is demonstrably inconsistent. That’s not a subjective thing based on one’s tolerance for roughness or mistaking intensity for roughness, otherwise there wouldn’t be so many people (including me) who have had rides that are both perfectly smooth and others which are incredibly rough and bouncy.

I rode over four separate visits last year and nearly all of those rides were somewhere between very smooth and slightly rough. There were two occasions in all that time where the ride was significantly rougher than all the other rides. Both were on wing seats, on rows 3 and 4. On the other occasions I’ve ridden in those same positions, the experience was nowhere near as bad.

I think the conclusion to draw is that this is not just a seat position or train issue, but is also influenced by other factors such as temperature, train weighting, resonance etc. Thats’s why there are differing opinions, because people are experiencing different things.

It’s inconsistent.
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It’s been over two months since I posted this and it still seems to ring true with the inconsistent reports that continue to be reported here and elsewhere.

I don’t really buy the tolerance for roughness argument. It doesn’t make sense to explain it away in that manner when the same people have ridden other objectively rough coasters and have that reference point.
 
People say this is rough?

Just makes it easier to dismiss the majority of their opinions on rides then.


Superb ride. Relentless throughout with a great mix of intensity, airtime and some interesting maneuvers. Though my first ride I wasn't very much in a "must re-ride NOW" view a second today had a different reaction.

Top 10 coaster for me. Where I've yet to decide as need a few more goes on it. Wouldn't want to ride it lots in the current heat in Germany. Hilarious that at a point earlier today it wasn't the longest queue on park. And even then that was 45 minutes.
 
Double Post.

Got a rollback on it today at the turntable. Then was sat on brake run for a while. Fairly unreliable every so often but wonder if thats down to having lots of different random things (like the platform floor) going down than the ride itself.
 
Benzin said:
Double Post.

Got a rollback on it today at the turntable. Then was sat on brake run for a while. Fairly unreliable every so often but wonder if thats down to having lots of different random things (like the platform floor) going down than the ride itself.
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I mean... those random things such as the platform floor are very much a part of the ride lol
 
How much does the moving walkway actually improve things? Most rolling station rides don't have one.
 
The moving platform certainly adds a sense of urgency to the public getting to their seats. Operators can be as quick as you like, but if there are dawdlers, it’s very difficult to control without something to create the sense of time being of the essence. The moving platform is just that.

Reliability has improved since opening, as you would expect with any ride. Downtime is pretty minimal, but it’s true there are a lot of elements that can go wrong, moreso than on most coasters.

As for the continuing attitude of “I didn’t have a rough ride on it, so it’s never rough“, are we really going to be that myopic?
 
venny said:
As for the continuing attitude of “I didn’t have a rough ride on it, so it’s never rough“, are we really going to be that myopic?
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I'm of the view of if a bit of rattle I had on one ride (wing seat, which due to physics will be liable to such effect) towards the end makes it rough then what do those think of Euro-Mir for example?

1 ride out of 5 had a bit of rattle. When I posted initially I'd experienced no rattle so can only go by the evidence provided.

Relentless yes. Intense yes. Rough? Not in my book. Rough was things like Mean Streak or most SLCs.
 
Surely it needs the moving platform because of the wing seats that overhang the train? Both for getting in & out of them, and so they don't knock you over as you step off the train floor.

Also, another vote for it not being rough, rode it 6 times over 3 days last year (would have done more but had my nephew for his first time there so wanted to do as much as possible), mostly on wing seats and honestly didn't find it rough. Very intense yes, but not rough. Although my nephew preferred the inner seats so maybe he did? But we both came away with it being our favourite coaster.

Maybe it's to do with size? I'm 6'4" and 125kg so pretty much fill the seat, maybe that meant I got thrown around less, compared to my nephew who's around 5'
 
I think what you’re reporting is that you haven’t experienced the unlucky and reasonably rare “rough” ride.

I’ve ridden four times this year and not had it either. Last year though there were two occasions over many rides where I did get the “rough” ride. It is not a matter of interpretation when you get that ride - you’ll know. It’s worse than many an SLC I’ve ridden and, whilst it’s been about 16 years since my last Mean Streak ride, if I recall correctly rougher than that too.
 
That is probably true, hoping to go back later this year so will see what happens then.

However, having ridden Condor and Iron Claw (SLCs at Walibi Holland & Movie Park Germany) on a trip the year before, I just don't see how Voltron could ever be worse than them with the way they shuffled and jolted round the track. Maybe that's just because I haven't had a rough ride on it yet though.
 
addy2503 said:
That is probably true, hoping to go back later this year so will see what happens then.

However, having ridden Condor and Iron Claw (SLCs at Walibi Holland & Movie Park Germany) on a trip the year before, I just don't see how Voltron could ever be worse than them with the way they shuffled and jolted round the track. Maybe that's just because I haven't had a rough ride on it yet though.
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It’s certainly a different type of rough. You don’t feel that shuffle you describe, where it’s very clearly poorly engineered so all the wheels across a train aren’t touching the track at the same time.

The rough ride on Voltron is more akin to a very intense bounce, mainly vertically. A vibration, rather than a rattle. It’s the reason I believe it’s caused by resonance, and also why I believe it to be dependent on more factors than just what row of what train you sit on. Resonance can depend on overall loading, weight distribution, external temperature conditions, other weather factors, small changes in speed etc.
 
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