Dobba
TS Member
A new route and apparently more rooms are accessible this year.
From: https://x.com/altontowers/status/1927771976032211395
From: https://x.com/altontowers/status/1927771976032211395
A new route and apparently more rooms are accessible this year.
From: https://x.com/altontowers/status/1927771976032211395
Apparently there are parts of The Sanctuary and Sub Species sitting SBNO, still waiting to be removed as they’ve become infested with mould. These are mazes that have been left to rot for a decade at this point…As I see it, the other two ways would be to open up the bits of the basement level that used to be open to the public (either with or without the area under the Banqueting Hall that was used for Sub Species),
See pretty much every historical house, castle, palace or gardens in Britain.Paying to walk around something that used to be free to be told facts from books most have already read whilst the place falls to bits still feels a bit bizarre.
Also this is on previous Merlin Management the Management is different in the 2010's compared to now so it's them who are to blameMuch like the gardens, it's disgraceful how Merlin/Alton Towers have neglected these areas for so long.
Nope....Also this is on previous Merlin Management the Management is different in the 2010's compared to now so it's them who are to blame
No I don't blame people for others neglect not to mention they have restored numerous buildings in the gardensNope.
Poor management of the garden areas has been continuous for decades.
Don't let the current dodgy custodians off the hook.
The gardens, specifically the flora and fauna, not the physical structures, have been getting worse, year on year, for half a century.
They often do this due to S106 agreements that get put in place when they are granted planning permission for a new attraction. It's a bit of a bargaining tool; if you let us build this rollercoaster then we promise that we will restore x, y or z.No I don't blame people for others neglect not to mention they have restored numerous buildings in the gardens
And I specifically said "not the physical structures"!No I don't blame people for others neglect not to mention they have restored numerous buildings in the gardens
How long has it been since the Sanctuary side of the Towers has been accessible to the Public.
I'm not sure that there's anything notable of The Sanctuary left in the ruins, as most of its course was reused by Mine Tours, but that would definitely track regarding Sub-Species, there have been a few reports that the majority of the maze remains underneath the Banqueting Hall.Apparently there are parts of The Sanctuary and Sub Species sitting SBNO, still waiting to be removed as they’ve become infested with mould. These are mazes that have been left to rot for a decade at this point…
Supposedly the plan was to eventually stop using the Towers due to the expected deterioration of the ruins, which is partly why we saw the new structures pop-up. Not sure what the plans are with the Heritage Tours now. Although, I doubt we’ll see a new maze in the Towers because RWS won’t (at least initially) have the same insight as the Entertainments team did.
I think they do have permission (if i recall there is one on the planning permission page) I think it runs out soon.I'm more minded that the reason the Scaremazes are being phased is that it turned out that they low-key should have got some level of planning permission for that usage of the building, and that poses more of a problem than their old school approach that they could basically just shove anything in the ruins without any real oversight.
There's an application on the planning permission site, but it has not been approved. Nor has it been rejected... it just seems to have landed in a quagmire of issues.I think they do have permission (if i recall there is one on the planning permission page) I think it runs out soon.
I understand why they would want to charge for tours of the towers, but not how it is right now. Bare rooms with refurbishments to stop the thing toppling over.
Contrast this to, a few days ago, my family went on a day trip to Arundel Castle, and it was brilliant. Every room was taken care of, furnished, plaques to read, routes where planned and even tons of staff that could tell you everything about the castle.
We paid around £70 for four of us to look around the castle, bedrooms and gardens. Not to mention the demonstrations of old firearms and birds outside the castle, mind, as well as a whole - I’m not really sure what to call it - medieval fair outside with music and canvas tents.
Paying for entry does two things, one, prevent little vandals from carving their and their partner for a month’s initials in historical stone. No vandal is going to want to pay for entry, they only do it if they’re there anyway, like in the Toxicator tunnel. This, both Arundel and Towers do:
However, paying to keep the rooms furnished, kept well and paying for the knowledgable and friendly staff appears to be exclusive to Arundel. I understand keeping some clientele out, but it has to be worth the cost first because as it stands it feels like penny pilfering. “Look at this house we named our park after and then refuse to upkeep!” is just a bad look to me.
I also think opening the tours up to non park guests is a good idea. Having to cough up the money to go on all the rides to go in the towers despite only wanting to go to the towers is not a thing many will want to do, especially local residents that will want to view their heritage as much as we do. There where people of all ages at Arundel (despite the steep stairs) and if you also had to pay to go to a theme park next door to go in the castle, there wouldn’t be the range of people going. They’re just using the building as a decaying centrepiece and it’s hurting my soul.
It's not. You'd have to spend additional money on ensuring that those with Towers tickets only couldn't go to other places within the park, or on any of the rides. Inevitably this means Blackpool style turnstiles at the least, effectively turning Alton Towers' entire business model on its head.Again free money left on the table because things like this won’t be done right.