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Scotland are going to the World Cup! America calling!

For a belated birthday present, I've had 17 heart attacks, 5 strokes, aged 90 years, blood pressure through the roof but God damn we're back for the first time since 1998!

God what a night, now we need Wales and Northern Ireland to join the fun!
 
John_P said:
Was amazing that, sealing qualification with a goal from your own half was someway to do it!
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That McTominay is perhaps the greatest Scotland goal since that McFadden goal in 2007. What a night, we just need the Welsh and Irish to join the American jamboree.
 
Double post but has anyone been following the league race in Scotland? Hearts look set to be pulling off a Leicester to become the first team outside Glasgow in over 40 years...given how horrendously difficult it is to win that league, it would make Leicester's miracle look puny in comparison with all due respect.

This is looking to be a very special season for Scottish football and that's no including for qualifying for the World Cup.
 
QTXAdsy said:
Double post but has anyone been following the league race in Scotland? Hearts look set to be pulling off a Leicester to become the first team outside Glasgow in over 40 years...given how horrendously difficult it is to win that league, it would make Leicester's miracle look puny in comparison with all due respect.

This is looking to be a very special season for Scottish football and that's no including for qualifying for the World Cup.
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Hearts won’t win the league I tell you but it will be a closer gap between the Old Firm and the rest than it usually is
 
QTXAdsy said:
Double post but has anyone been following the league race in Scotland? Hearts look set to be pulling off a Leicester to become the first team outside Glasgow in over 40 years...given how horrendously difficult it is to win that league, it would make Leicester's miracle look puny in comparison with all due respect.
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What nonsense. The Premier League is ultra-competitive across the board, whereas Hearts only needed Rangers and Celtic to sink to mediocrity in order to compete at the top. The comparison is obscene.

Hope they win it though
 
D4n said:
What nonsense. The Premier League is ultra-competitive across the board, whereas Hearts only needed Rangers and Celtic to sink to mediocrity in order to compete at the top. The comparison is obscene.

Hope they win it though
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I dunno - Rangers and Celtic failing at the same time - unheard of, and you’ve still got to put the points on the board
 
I’ll admit to having been a Leicester naysayer for most of the 15-16 season, but I still can’t see Hearts winning the league.

Rohl is a really astute manager, and Celtic will have an upturn when they sack Nancy and bring back O’Neill (again)
 
QTXAdsy said:
Double post but has anyone been following the league race in Scotland? Hearts look set to be pulling off a Leicester to become the first team outside Glasgow in over 40 years...given how horrendously difficult it is to win that league, it would make Leicester's miracle look puny in comparison with all due respect.

This is looking to be a very special season for Scottish football and that's no including for qualifying for the World Cup.
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As a Leicester fan I would, obviously, have to disagree!

I really do hope Hearts can win the SPL, but the standard of Scottish football is nowhere near that of the Premier League (or maybe even the Championship in many circumstances). Sure, it has been dominated by Celtic and Rangers over the years, but Hearts have always been a big club and it's not quite like Leicester winning the Premier League having been in the Championship/League 1 for 10 out of the 11 previous seasons.
 
Rob said:
As a Leicester fan I would, obviously, have to disagree!

I really do hope Hearts can win the SPL, but the standard of Scottish football is nowhere near that of the Premier League (or maybe even the Championship in many circumstances). Sure, it has been dominated by Celtic and Rangers over the years, but Hearts have always been a big club and it's not quite like Leicester winning the Premier League having been in the Championship/League 1 for 10 out of the 11 previous seasons.
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All the other teams in the SPL should agree to lose to Hearts.
 
Rob said:
As a Leicester fan I would, obviously, have to disagree!

I really do hope Hearts can win the SPL, but the standard of Scottish football is nowhere near that of the Premier League (or maybe even the Championship in many circumstances). Sure, it has been dominated by Celtic and Rangers over the years, but Hearts have always been a big club and it's not quite like Leicester winning the Premier League having been in the Championship/League 1 for 10 out of the 11 previous seasons.
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I think a big part of the magic of when Leicester won the league is that they had never won it before full stop. It would have been great if say West Brom won it, but they won it before so that bit of magic would have been missing

Hearts by contrast can be debated as being the 3rd biggest club in Scotland with a decent argument against Aberdeen, so the impact wouldn't be anywhere near as great as Leicester's. Still would be a fantastic achievement though
 
BSwiss said:
I’ll admit to having been a Leicester naysayer for most of the 15-16 season, but I still can’t see Hearts winning the league.

Rohl is a really astute manager, and Celtic will have an upturn when they sack Nancy and bring back O’Neill (again)
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Well then, you might be right as Celtic have sacked Nancy after just eight games...the shortest reign to manage Celtic and madly Russell Martin did better than him which is saying something.

Can't remember a time when both the Old Fim went through different managers in the same season which this is utterly unprecedented.
 
I think united need to gut the club and go again, for years they have referenced the glory days and there was an ego of 'we should be there again' without wanting to change anything from the 'fergie way'.

With ineos coming in I think in part they have upgraded the training facilities and maybe have started to turn the corner, but there is some toxicity within the club which need to be eradicated

As for Chelsea as a fan, I think we need to stop this 'buy young only' rule and get a established defender to own the defense and stop buying midfielders. Im really not a fan of BlueCo but they aren't going to sell up anytime soon
 
What United have done is not learn anything from their mistakes, or how others in the league do things. Simply through money at the problem and hope that works.

Amorin should have never have started mid season, should have waited till the new season. Give him chance to actually work on how he does things. His tactics clearly would never work with that squad. Given a summer and a transfer window, he could have got something going. At united, time is never an option.

Makes me a very happy man.
 
Seeing Gary Neville and co banging on about United DNA and getting in someone who knows the club etc is just hilarious.

They appointed Ferguson in the 80s and it wasn't going well with banners and petitions going round, the fan base wanted him gone. But then he turned it around won the FA cup and then the trophies started to flow, helped by the club listing itself on the stock market, the Premier League riches, and a ridiculous once in a century collection of youth team players allowed this bandwagon to continue for 20 odd years.

The way modern football has gone is no united manager will ever be given time again. They sacked the director of football who said not to hire Amorim, and now sacked Amorim effectively because he slightly criticised Jason Wilcox.

Now they've spent another fortune paying off another manager after spending a load of money on players to play his tactical system.
 
The bottling sacking Ten Hag because he won the FA cup, awarding instead with a new contract, then having to pay out more to sack him. To think that was only last season as well.

They will find it hard to bring in anyone if note now. The fact that Carrick, Fletcher and Ole have been listed to "steer the ship" is absolute music to the ears.

Neville to talks about DNA. As you said this is United's DNA. Successful managers (Busby, Fergie) leave. Stay on at club on the board, club takes a massive tumble. Sacks and bites countless managers
 
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