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Hex [2024 Refurb]: General Discussion

DistortAMG said:
It's also based around the supernatural, curses, myths and legends. It could be argued that things based around that, such as the lighting, fit with the theme and add to that aspect of the story.
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Personally, the new lighting is reminiscent of the scene in the cinema video where the Earl is quite literally battling science vs the supernatural.

It’s always been there, they’ve just amped it up. I like it.
 
I think at this point a lot of reasoning has been offered for the changes (modern audiences, more spectacle, using LEDs) - if someone doesn’t personally like the changes it’s a shame, but to pretend there was no reason whatsoever to change is a little bit stubborn
 
DistortAMG said:
I understand your point, but it was a counterargument to the point you made. Yes, the ride is supposed to be a construction site, but the theme also heavily relies on legends and supernatural themes; it is not exclusively just construction, far, far from it, in fact.

But the lighting does make far more sense in a supernatural sense, yes, than if the ride were exclusively construction-themed.
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Thanks for clarifying.

I hadn’t realised the vault shouldn’t remind me of my local screw fix…

 
Subtle works sometimes but when you are suggesting supernatural spinning room I don’t think the more dynamic lighting is a major problem. Personally as said I think having the branch lit up the entire cycle makes it look like a Christmas decoration so I would have liked them to tone that bit down, there is also a slightly clunky lighting transition during the big base section of the music which looks a bit basic but overall I’m fine with the more dynamic lighting.

Nostalgia is fine but times change.
 
Ash said:
Thanks for clarifying.

I hadn’t realised the vault shouldn’t remind me of my local screw fix…

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No need to bring out the sarcasm, I only said what I said because you said and I quote;

"Fact of the matter is, it’s supposed to be a construction/restoration site.

That’s the theme.

Anything that doesn’t add or takes away from that defeats the purpose."

I simply argued that there can be other things, besides construction and restoration themes in the ride, that can and do make sense. As they are not the only themes the ride plays with.
 
DistortAMG said:
No need to bring out the sarcasm, I only said what I said because you said and I quote;

"Fact of the matter is, it’s supposed to be a construction/restoration site.

That’s the theme.

Anything that doesn’t add or takes away from that defeats the purpose."

I simply argued that there can be other things, besides construction and restoration themes in the ride, that can and do make sense. As they are not the only themes the ride plays with.
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Well you sure told me.

It was a worthwhile contribution, you made your point beautifully.

And don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.
 
With all due respect, I am just simply arguing the point you made and telling you why I do not agree with your point. You know, the thing that drives forums like this...discussion!!:)

The fact you bring yourself down to throwing sarcasm and almost personal jibes my way because I've dared to disagree with your points says a thousand words in itself. Anyway, I'll end this specific chain of discussion here, as we are going off topic.
 
I would like to point out that while the queue is indeed themed on the restoration of the towers, the video and audio explicitly states that a) the vault has been undisturbed for 200 years, so no restoration stuff in it, and b) it was a place of "science vs the supernatural". Aka, weird technology and magic.

anyway...
Watched a few old pov's earlier and noticed that a lot of people were casually chatting through the ride rather than taking in the experience. Wonder if that's something that lead to pushing it in more of a 'show' direction. Extra things happening to keep the punters attention.
 
Mykeprime said:
I would like to point out that while the queue is indeed themed on the restoration of the towers, the video and audio explicitly states that a) the vault has been undisturbed for 200 years, so no restoration stuff in it, and b) it was a place of "science vs the supernatural". Aka, weird technology and magic.
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The amount of people that seemingly refuse to acknowledge this even though it’s been open for 25 years is hilarious.
 
But surely everyone knows restoration of old buildings often causes rooms to spin around and ominous music to play, it has nothing to do with bizarre experiments and witchcraft….

In all seriousness though I think the nail has been hit on the head, like it or not the modern audience wants something a bit more in your face. It’s the same with Curse, a certain demographic of these forums hoping to have their youth validated hate the change, but as Walt said theme parks are not museums, they should adapt to their audience.

That doesn’t mean folk can’t express those frustrations and views though, and we can certainly remain critical (looking at you Christmas branch).
 
Dave said:
But surely everyone knows restoration of old buildings often causes rooms to spin around and ominous music to play, it has nothing to do with bizarre experiments and witchcraft….

In all seriousness though I think the nail has been hit on the head, like it or not the modern audience wants something a bit more in your face. It’s the same with Curse, a certain demographic of these forums hoping to have their youth validated hate the change, but as Walt said theme parks are not museums, they should adapt to their audience.

That doesn’t mean folk can’t express those frustrations and views though, and we can certainly remain critical (looking at you Christmas branch).
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I’m on the fence, I can see both sides really - I’ll always have a preference for the original, but you’ve hit the nail on the head with the “in your face-ism” required to grab attention these days, so like it or not, the new Hex is probably here to stay. Until it breaks again or a bit of the door falls off.

And hey, Jim Carter is still around, if he could pop back and mod the last section of the VT we’d be all set. Try to read it in his voice:

“From there, the Earl became locked in a furious battle of science vs the supernatural, and he also liked to pop to Cookies in Longport from time to time, to buy some disco lights for his vault…”
 
It seems like people either like in your face lighting or more subtle stuff, and that's subjective.

But the recent reopening of the Spirit of London with all the lights replaced With LEDs has proven that subtle lighting is still feasible on today's industry. It all narrows down to what the creative lead of the projects want. It's obvious that the people behind Hex saw the older version as "not with the times", while the people behind the spirit of London was more interested in keeping the original style and simply changing lights to LED, as we can see below.

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Trooper Looper said:
It seems like people either like in your face lighting or more subtle stuff, and that's subjective.

But the recent reopening of the Spirit of London with all the lights replaced With LEDs has proven that subtle lighting is still feasible on today's industry. It all narrows down to what the creative lead of the projects want. It's obvious that the people behind Hex saw the older version as "not with the times", while the people behind the spirit of London was more interested in keeping the original style and simply changing lights to LED, as we can see below.

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It’s very subjective, but you also have to factor in spirit of London is meant to be a nostalgic, relaxed ride, it isn’t a fantasy illusion ride. It also requires no effort to attract riders as it’s part of a museum tour, Hex asks its guests to queue and they want a return on that invested time, that return is to be thrilled and entertained.

A lot of guests today want to be wowed and although the vault movement does wow folk to an extent I think most of the new lighting just takes it up a notch for many guests.

As I say not all of it is good, I have criticisms of it, but I do get why they have made the changes for the most part.
 
The important thing to note is that these parks have to evolve and change over time, and whatever you personally think of it, the choice to change Hex’s lighting is part of that.

These theme parks are not intended to be time capsules; they’re intended to entertain the guests of today. If something doesn’t work for a modern audience, or could be replaced with something that might work better for a modern audience, it shouldn’t be kept just because “John Wardley built it” or “it’s one of the few remaining vestiges of Tussauds” as I’ve heard said before.

Based on the bulk of the experience being the same, management clearly thought that the bulk of Hex still works for a modern audience (rightly so, in my view; I don’t think it needed to be faffed with), but that the new lighting in the vault might make that portion resonate with modern audiences even more.
 
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