London Entertainment Resort: All Discussion

[Alastair]

Construction going to start in 2022 for 2024 opening???

Even more laughable then. Universal can't even turn around a brand new park in that time and they are the masters of the quick turn around.

Are these people living in the real world?

There won't be digger on site in 2022 either then.

I agree in the sense that 2 years is rather ambitious, particularly considering their timeline also puts DCO approval as coming in Spring 2022 - thereby meaning construction probably wouldn't start until midway through the year. Shanghai Disneyland, considerably smaller than this development, took 5 years to build in China - a country notorious for quick construction speeds.

 

[Matt N]

It’s worth bearing in mind that Disney are not known for building things quickly, however; they build brilliant quality attractions, but they do not build very quickly on the whole.

 

[SuperMuscleMan]

I really don't know why so many keep having ago at the location and transport.

First of all I live in Kent.

By car a new crossing is planned. The park has also said it plans to have a nightly show so guests are encouraged to stay beyond the rush hour traffic. Traffic problems are normally caused going north-bound as these use the tunnels. So the effect will be less of a problem.

The areas roads serves Europe's largest shopping center well. (Bluewater) just 5 minutes from the proposed site. Yes it can get busy but your also forgetting the public transport options and the fact this is a resort not some has been theme park like Alton. Sorry but what entertainment does it have? How late is it open, how many cuts has it had? This is completely different.

So all those on the eastern mainline you walk over the road at kings cross and magically in 20 minutes your at ebbsfleet. How does that compare with Alton? Then all you west coast users... Well again that's 10 minutes walk between Euston and St panc.

London has 10 million people I believe, Kent has 1.6m Essex 1.5 and it's on a international Trainline. I can leave my house and be at DLP in just under 3 hours. It takes me longer to get to Alton than DLP by public transport or car.

If we have direct trains to DLP I can see direct trains to London resort from around Europe. I almost think of this as the universal studios to Disney world.

Please if you don't live near the Dartford crossing don't say it's bad. Because its only bad normally going north at 430-6pm

 

[WillPS]

The population of London is ~9m.

 

[SuperMuscleMan]

The population of London is ~9m.

Thanks for that. I was looking more into within the M25 region (not just London) and predicted population in 4 years.

 

[Themeparksandy1981]

Think Londoners and people on the East coast will use it more as without Traffic it’s a good 3 hr journey without traffic from some areas of the midlands.

 

[rob666]

As a west coast possible user...not that I'm a believer...I would have to walk to catch a bus, then a local train, then down to London on the big train, then a ten minute walk, then another train.
No, sorry.
Public transport for the majority outside the capital would not be a good, easy option.

 

[Thameslink Rail]

Hopefully the public transport problem will at least partially be solved by HS2.

 

[rob666]

In my personal case...how exactly?
Maybe ten minutes quicker by rail, but still longer than by car, by a couple of hours probably.

 

[Thameslink Rail]

Preston to London will go from 2:08 to 1:18. Even with walking to St Pancras and taking HS1 this is still faster than driving.

 

[rob666]

Walk to bus stop.
Wait.
Local bus.
Wait.
Local train connection.
Wait.
Connection to mainline.
Then walk.
Then next train.
Or just drive door to door, with four people in the car, for half the cost.
Not quicker than driving, even if the trains run on time, with good connections, and if the park gets built!
Thats a lot of ifs.

 

[Tim]

Walk to bus stop.
Wait.
Local bus.
Wait.
Local train connection.
Wait.
Connection to mainline.
Then walk.
Then next train.
Or just drive door to door, with four people in the car, for half the cost.
Not quicker than driving, even if the trains run on time, with good connections, and if the park gets built!
Thats a lot of ifs.

I agree with the point you're making. Most places south of London are hard to get too from anywhere above the north south divide (wherever you draw it).
However you live near Blackpool right? The same argument can be made in reverse for Blackpool. I live just off the M4 with good road and train access. To get to Blackpool it is 4 hours away by Car or 5 hours by public transport. Which puts Blackpool outside of the southern market, yet it does fine.

The only "perfect" sites in the UK are Alton and Drayton which sit right in the middle. But neither of them are ideally located for an international market as London is the international hub.

 

[rob666]

Blackpool now has direct trains from London, I think.
Electric all the way.
I can do the Beach in about twenty five minutes door to door, or about two hours by bus and train, but I love the Beach having its own station.
Train means beer though...

 

[rob666]

Just looked it up!
Five a day each way, a trip to the Beach is entirely doable as a day trip from London, with a nice direct tram ride down the prom from the station coming soon.
And back on topic...
Not a bleeding chance!

 

[Matt N]

A guest on ThemeParX forum found some very interesting new concept art for the Resort, as well as a promotional video:

(Password for this is paramountlondon)

I should add that this was apparently sourced from a LinkedIn account linked to the project.

Here’s the ThemeParX link where this all came from: http://www.themeparx.com/the-london-resort-paramount-park-london/

Very interesting stuff!
EDIT: All of the images work when I edit or write my post, but none of them seem to work for me when I actually post it; very odd...

I also have the link to the hotels website described in the promotional video: https://londonresort-hotels.com/

 

[SuperMuscleMan]

A guest on ThemeParX forum found some very interesting new concept art for the Resort, as well as a promotional video:

(Password for this is paramountlondon)

I should add that this was apparently sourced from a LinkedIn account linked to the project.

Here’s the ThemeParX link where this all came from: http://www.themeparx.com/the-london-resort-paramount-park-london/

Very interesting stuff!
EDIT: All of the images work when I edit or write my post, but none of them seem to work for me when I actually post it; very odd...

I also have the link to the hotels website described in the promotional video: https://londonresort-hotels.com/

Looks very fake to me.

 

[Benjsh]

It doesn't look fake to me. That's some serious detail to be put in a video if it's fake and fan made. I know we have some serious crazy fans in this community but that's impressive if it's fan made.

However being a genuine video doesnt mean it's going to happen either. It appears like it might be part of a presentation to raise the funds to build the park to me. Could be wrong though.

 

[Matt N]

Someone from RideRater attended the first webinar held by the London Resort developers, and they’ve done a great article summarising 7 things we learnt about the project: https://riderater.co.uk/8325/london-resort-consultation-7-things-we-learned/

These are:

1. There will be connections from Central London, using 400-capacity slipper boats along the River Thames.
2. The IP partner for the second gate has not even been decided yet, while the partners for the first are “under constant review”.
3. The team is looking “across the world” at rollercoaster manufacturers and concepts, in order to bring “new, bespoke and interesting” rides.
4. £70million has been spent so far, which includes payment to IP partners.
5. The team have said that they are “very determined” to see the project through to completion, adding that it “absolutely is” going to happen.
6. The Resort will have “drone-based fireworks displays” as opposed to traditional pyrotechnics.
7. Businesses who currently occupy the land will be offered up to 30% extra on top of the land value.

 

[Benjsh]

£70m has been spent on what exactly? They don't have anything to show for it.

It's sounding more and more farcical by the day. I so hope I'm proved wrong and this actually gets built as it would be excellent for the TP community here in the UK but it sounds like the world's most drawn out money heist.

 

[Swarm Chris]

Looks very fake to me.

That was my initial thought, or that it was very old, as nearly everything in that video is old concepts. The website doesn't link back anywhere to London Resort or use a similar server set up. Whilst the entity it is copyrighted to doesn't seem to exist anywhere.

However, there is property sales company reporting to have an agreement with TLR to sell these rooms, using the same images and points made in the video.

In the end I decided it probably wasn't fake, but that it did seem suspicious. Selling leasehold rooms for a hotel that doesn't exist, at a resort that doesn't exist and hasn't even applied for planning permission yet. Nah, good thanks.