Long term development plan

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  1. Alastair

    Alastair TS Forum Team Team Member

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    Re: Re: Long term development plan

    Perhaps you're right, but surely as a 'new attraction' they could afford to spend a lot on theming and the building as there's nothing to spend hardware wise?

    With the correct lighting levels I can't see how a spinning coaster would be more nauseous than other coasters in the dark including those with inversions. In the pitch black then maybe but that probably wouldn't be the case if they did ever attempt to do this.
     
  2. ASturge21

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    From 2015 I think it is safe to assume we are not getting an indoor attraction next year.
     
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    Bump - are we due another one of these shortly
     
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    I just had a read through the version of the LTDP submitted in 2012, and I had a couple of thoughts:
    • Other than the ATH extension, the removals of Ripsaw and The Flume and the lodge development (albeit an edited version), not much of this plan has actually surfaced. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
    • They should really give the council a new attendance estimate, as unless a miracle happens, the park probably won't hit 3.3 million guests in 2019. For reference, the park attracted 1,980,000 guests in 2016 according to the 2016 Theme Index.
    • We never saw any of the areas they mentioned get redeveloped as far as I'm aware. I believe they mentioned areas "to the east of Air, the east of Nemesis, the west of CCL and the east of Duel". Although "to the west of CCL" could materialise if the rumoured CCL redevelopment happens in 2019.
     
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    I think it was clear back then that much of this was pie in the sky even back then.

    I doubt we'll see another one anytime soon as Merlin will be desperate to bury this one out of the memories of investors. That's because it's almost the perfect illustration of their self inflicted failure of running Towers this last decade. If challenged I'm sure they'd come up with a diplomatic excuse along the lines of "unforeseen changes in the economy resulted in a need to change strategy to achieve cost based synergies..... blah blah".

    They're probably already selling SW8 as "continueing to invest heavily in the future of the park", when we all know in real terms SW8 is actually a cut!
     
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  6. Matt N

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    Sorry to bump the thread, but shouldn't we be receiving a new LTDP some time soon, as the current one ends this year?

    I must say, the LTDP makes for rather intriguing reading. Merlin's plans for Alton Towers must have changed significantly over the last 9 years, as few of the LTDP's contents actually came to fruition...
     
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    I think the plan was an indication of ideas the park had as opposed to a form development plan. A fair few items have come to fruition - surprisingly for me is the lack of development behind air. I think the management at merlin have decided the capex investment in expanding into this area is clearly not worth the gain

    Replacing a ride is cheap in comparison to a brand new area
     
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    One might conclude that in a number of cases removing a ride and not replacing it was deemed to be even cheaper.
     
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    I guess the smiler crash had a massive impact on towers, as all we have really seen since then is a lot of things removed, not just rides but also shops, food outlets, game stalls and entertainment and not a lot of new investments, other than Wicker Man it’s been very low scale investments.

    Hopefully now things have picked up we might see a new plan and new investments.
     
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