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Phantasialand: General Discussion

Hang on for a moment in terms of a comparison with WDW. The cast members in world showcase and at locations such as AKL are on Cultural programmes and come from the countries in question. They are on fixed terms contracts with accommodation etc. Part of the appeal is to share your countries culture with the guests.

That’s a world apart from recruiting people just for the colour of their skin.
 
AT86 said:
Hang on for a moment in terms of a comparison with WDW. The cast members in world showcase and at locations such as AKL are on Cultural programmes and come from the countries in question. They are on fixed terms contracts with accommodation etc. Part of the appeal is to share your countries culture with the guests.

That’s a world apart from recruiting people just for the colour of their skin.
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Has it been confirmed that PL hire staff based on their skin colour for certain areas? Or is it rather just an observation that they allocate certain staff to certain areas dependent on that?
 
Alastair said:
Has it been confirmed that PL hire staff based on their skin colour for certain areas? Or is it rather just an observation that they allocate certain staff to certain areas dependent on that?
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Poor wording on my part. Placement of staff based on skin colour is still not comparable to the WDW situation.
 
Essentially the situation is completely different to casting actors of colour in a play, as proper acting is a desirable job with scope for creative expression, whereas mopping up sick and cleaning toilets in a theme park is inherently demeaning already.
 
Sam said:
Essentially the situation is completely different to casting actors of colour in a play, as proper acting is a desirable job with scope for creative expression, whereas mopping up sick and cleaning toilets in a theme park is inherently demeaning already.
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I think that's a pretty demeaning assessment of the work people do to facilitate your hobby, not least a number of people on this forum.
 
Rick said:
I think that's a pretty demeaning assessment of the work people do to facilitate your hobby, not least a number of people on this forum.
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No.

Cleaning toilets, mopping up sick and serving cheeseburgers to acne-ridden teenagers are all demeaning jobs. That those jobs are inherently demeaning does not say anything less of the people who are forced to do them through having to survive in a wage-based capitalist society. In the case of the staff who work at 'Deep in Africa', a lot of them will have been denied educational opportunities by systemic racism (it has already been mentioned that people of colour are almost entirely absent from the German media).

The reluctance to label these jobs as demeaning, for fear of insulting the people who are forced to do them through economic circumstances that are no fault of their own, prevents a proper conversation about making these jobs significantly better paid, or making them much shorter hours for the same pay, or automating them.

Cleaning toilets is a demeaning and pointless job.
 
Quite a few of my gardening customers asked me to take on a care role as they have got older and can't do all the jobs around the house.
For twenty odd years previously I looked after kids in care as a junior manager.
Cleaned lots of toilets me, over lots of years, for a very good hourly rate thank you.
Not demeaning at all, simply one of life's necessities.
 
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Please could we veer away from this socio-political rabbit hole? Just try to keep this vaguely on topic before we fully enter something totally away from Phantasialand itself!
 
To be fair, Phantasialand's toilet cleaners do a superb job. They were cleaning the floors so hard and well that people were slipping over in them on my last visit. Surely guests would much rather slip onto a polished, themed toilet floor rather than the vile mess such as The Dome's toilet floor covered in 5 day old urine at Thorpe Park?
 
Jb85 said:
What’s this got to do with FLY?
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To be fair it's 'Phantasialand 2020: Rookburgh launched coaster and general discussion'. I'm pretty sure this was the 'general discussion'. Although I do take the point that it has strayed away from being specific to Phantasialand.
 
Generally discussing how clean the toilets at Phantasialand are is fine! Generally speaking about the sewage semll in Klugheim is also fine.

Generally speaking about whether or not certain jobs are demeaning or pointless etc. is not fine in a thread about Phantasialand!

Admitedlty this would probably never have happened if Phantasialand got a move on with construction or even showed us some photos of what they are going to try and get us all excited.

So yes, Phantasialand.
 
Personally I'd much rather clean Phantasialand's toilets than Thorpe Park. At least their guests don't rip vinyls off the walls and splash all over the floor.

Perhaps I need to revisit the concept of a theme park toilet blog/YT channel.
 
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