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Ride Availability/Operations 2022-25

Because on rides like Th13teen, Wickerman and Monorail can make a big difference on 3 or more compared to 2

But if a queue is advertised as 40 minuites, then it should be around 40 minuites should it not?

In that regard, it doesn't matter how many trains are on the ride, if it is a 40 minute queue, it is a 40 minute queue.

The queue times are not estimated on the assumption that a ride is running at full capacity. They are based on the current throughput from the current capacity and trains on the ride at any given time. This is why the information about how many trains a ride is running is irrelevant in the context of giving queue times. If that makes sense.
 
But if a queue is advertised as 40 minuites, then it should be around 40 minuites should it not?

In that regard, it doesn't matter how many trains are on the ride, if it is a 40 minute queue, it is a 40 minute queue.

The queue times are not estimated on the assumption that a ride is running at full capacity. They are based on the current throughput from the current capacity and trains on the ride at any given time. This is why the information about how many trains a ride is running is irrelevant in the context of giving queue times. If that makes sense.
However this does make a big difference when it comes to guest experience in my opinion. A 60 min queue on 3 trains on Wicker will feel like less as the queue will be consistently moving at good speed. However, on 2 trains the queue will be a slower mover and be a more frustrating experience for guests. If I need to wait an hour for a ride then the faster it moves the shorter it will feel. I don’t think I’d wait that long if it was a slower moving queue as it would be unbearable
 
However this does make a big difference when it comes to guest experience in my opinion. A 60 min queue on 3 trains on Wicker will feel like less as the queue will be consistently moving at good speed. However, on 2 trains the queue will be a slower mover and be a more frustrating experience for guests. If I need to wait an hour for a ride then the faster it moves the shorter it will feel. I don’t think I’d wait that long if it was a slower moving queue as it would be unbearable

I never once doubted that. That was nothing to do with the argument that was being made however.
 
I never once doubted that. That was nothing to do with the argument that was being made however.
I know it wasn’t part of the argument but I do think it is a consideration in the conversation you’ve been having. Yes like you’ve pointed out a 40 min queue is a 40 min queue, however I think letting people know how many trains something is in may actually make people re consider their choices as a 40 min queue may not sound that bad until you see that ride is on 1 train
 
I know it wasn’t part of the argument but I do think it is a consideration in the conversation you’ve been having. Yes like you’ve pointed out a 40 min queue is a 40 min queue, however I think letting people know how many trains something is in may actually make people re consider their choices as a 40 min queue may not sound that bad until you see that ride is on 1 train

Very true, but outside of the die-hard enthusiasts, I do not think that most of the general public even care about that, to be honest. A 40-minute queue is a 40-minute queue. They will and do plan their day for the most part based on that time factor. Not based on the fact of if the queue is going to be moving fast or not.

I have worked in parks and spent a lot of time in them with friends, friends of friends, and family. I have never once seen them care about the number of trains, just the time.
 
Very true, but outside of the die-hard enthusiasts, I do not think that most of the general public even care about that, to be honest. A 40-minute queue is a 40-minute queue. They will and do plan their day for the most part based on that time factor. Not based on the fact of if the queue is going to be moving fast or not.

I have worked in parks and spent a lot of time in them with friends, friends of friends, and family. I have never once seen them care about the number of trains, just the time.
To be honest, I think the majority of die-hard enthusiasts also don't care. It is a minority of the minority for whom this is information of interest.
 
It'd only really be useful to those of us who think we know better and that the queue is much shorter than advertised, only to find out that the ride is on reduced capacity and the posted queue time is in fact correct after we've already committed to joining it.

That said, I have seen physical signs at Walibi Holland showing the number of trains in operation at ride entrances. I think they also have signs that show queue time from that point for either one or two trains.
 
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