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Ride/Park Accidents

Rick said:
I guess the reason I have mixed views on this is that some footage not entirely dissimilar plays an important role in history and it's important people do see it, whether it wars, the holocaust etc.
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I agree, but archived footage of atrocities committed by humans and triggering seismic events in global history has much-greater relevance than photography of a couple of theme-park attendees who have met a grizzly end. Saying that, I don't necessarily think those wanting to take a look are morbid or reprehensible, but I'm happy for it to stay opt-in.
 
Plastic Person said:
I agree, but archived footage of atrocities committed by humans and triggering seismic events in global history has much-greater relevance than photography of a couple of theme-park attendees who have met a grizzly end. Saying that, I don't necessarily think those wanting to take a look are morbid or reprehensible, but I'm happy for it to stay opt-in.
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Indeed and I guess that's where my dilemma is because then someone has to he the arbiter of when it's ok and when it's not. There are still a large number of circumstances whereby society typically doesn't have the 'right' to see someone who has been maimed by some means, even if photos exist.

Also, a lot of Nazi era things still can't be shown in Germany?

If I was killed in a roller coaster accident (or any other accident) I'd prefer my corpse wasn't broadcast across the internet, but perhaps we now live in a world where that's not my right - which is interesting given the bizarre social justice rights people spend a lifetime fighting for.
 
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I suppose this is a lot to do with the "right to be forgotten" laws that have been in practice across the EU (so, er, enjoy them while you can?), and the surrounding debates about privacy and participation that continue to be thrashed out.

However, @Rick if you do die in a tragic, ironic coaster incident, I will make it my duty to honour your wishes.
 
Soooo.... is there anywhere that someone with a sick mind could view these images that does not involve facebook? Asking for a friend...
 
DiogoJ42 said:
Soooo.... is there anywhere that someone with a sick mind could view these images that does not involve facebook? Asking for a friend...
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If they are not on The YNC I'd be amazed, but I'm not dropping to those depths to check for you...

It's an odd one for me too, I'm around death all the time at work and see the worst of the worst relatively frequently. I suppose it desensitises me to the reality of what it is and I can look at things like this with an investigative mind so it doesn't feel intrusive, when of course it is massively intrusive and none of my business.

I treat the deceased with the up most respect when I'm dealing with them and actively make efforts to prevent the scene being seen by or photographed by the public... all the while filming everything I do for evidence. These things should be for coroner's court, not curiosity, but once they're out there they're out there so it's probably not worth fighting it.
 
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Meh. I don't even have any selfrespect left these days. Never mind for other people, dead or alive.
 
The YNC?

Back in the day it was Orgish you went to for that kind of thing, does that site even exist anymore?
 
Nothing quite as disastrous as some of the previous reports in here, but Disney World have had a bit of a mishap with the new Skyliner, which only opened this week.



Full article
https://wdwnt.com/2019/10/breaking-...he-disney-skyliner-at-riviera-resort-station/

It looks like several gondolas have managed to collide in the Riviera Resort station. Various photos and videos show broken Perspex on the floor where they hit each other. The whole Epcot leg of the system was shut down and full evacuations taking place with assistance of emergency services using fire engines.



Guests were trapped in the gondolas for a couple of hours it seems, and Disney broadcast over the Skyliner radio system to advise guests to open the emergency kits. However, a couple of unverified reports suggest that some of emergency kits were actually incomplete.

Fortunately nobody has been reported to have been injured, and it’s probably a good job it happened in the evening rather than the baking midday sun. From what I can gather from watching a local news report it seems that eventually the system was restarted to bring guests down to a station, rather than evacing every gondola, but photos and videos confirm that there were evacs taking place.

I've also posted about this in the WDW Non-Theme Park Discussion thread where I'd suggest any more detailed discussion around the Skyliner itself takes place :)
 
Rick said:
Also, a lot of Nazi era things still can't be shown in Germany?
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Germany certainly does have strict laws about people doing things that are seen to glorify the Nazis, but in terms of graphical photos of bodies there doesn’t seem to be any limits, although perhaps in certain contexts? I went to the Dachau concentration camp a few days ago and the photos and video in the museum don’t leave a lot to the imagination. Everyone knows that the Holocaust was horrible, but I was shocked at how barbaric it was.

One photo will particularly stay with me, of a man who hung himself by a shoelace from a sink. Normally to hang yourself, you have to find something higher than you are to hang yourself from, stand on something like a chair and kick it away. But this man was so malnourished that he could kneel on the ground and hang himself from a low sink. His body was so weak it couldn’t fight back. Another photo showed a small child committing suicide. Some of the Nazis took souvenir photos of themselves torturing people, but thankfully they were only described and not shown.

But Germany does actively enforce laws about not glorifying the Nazis. According to my tour guide at Dachau, when the Oktoberfest’s on in Munich (Dachau is just outside Munich) several people are arrested each day for doing the Nazi salute and are sent to prison. Dachau does regularly get vandalised and desecrated. If you’re caught there’s a long prison sentence.
 
This is why if you buy a model kit made by Revel (a German company) of a WWII era German aircraft, you always have to get aftermarket decals to accurately complete the markings. If such planes are exhibited at a show in Germany, they will have bits of masking tape covering the tail!
 
There's been an incident at Hull Fair on Airmaxx 360 (Safeco Hang-Jump) at Hull Fair. A woman apparently fell/was flung from the ride as it started. This attraction worryingly was imported from Australia two years ago, where in 2014 the same ride (then brand new) fatally injured an 8 year old girl who was on it. The ride's operators at the time were found guilty of not maintaining the ride properly or reacting to complaints at shows prior to the one in Adelaide.

This one's a developing story having just been reported within the last hour or so, so be aware of incorrect reports etc at the moment.
 
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Craig said:
There's been an incident at Hull Fair on Airmaxxx 360 (Safeco Hang-Jump) at Hull Fair. A woman apparently fell/was flung from the ride as it started. This attraction worryingly was imported from Australia two years ago, where in 2014 the same ride (then brand new) fatally injured an 8 year old girl who was on it.

This one's a developing story having just been reported within the last hour or so, so be aware of incorrect reports etc at the moment.
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For those who don't know what it looks like, it was this ride:

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Quite concerning, considering it has OTSRs. Hope the victim recovers well. :(
 
MattyH said:
Seeing unconfirmed reports that a teenage boy has also been injured.
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A second person injured is confirmed following a statement by Yorkshire Ambulance Service

“St John’s Ambulance provide cover at Hull Fair and so the incident was handled by them and they transported one male to Hull Royal Infirmary with minor injuries and one female to Hull Royal Infirmary with [query] multiple injuries.”
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Apparently they were hit by the woman when she fell.
 
Looking into yesterday's incident it a little further, the inquest into this rides fatality in Australia cited a serious design flaw in the airmaxx 360's restraints with excessive gaps to the front and side between the OTSR and seat.



That being the case you'd expect to see some amendments made to the restraints wouldn't you? Well...



Australia, immediately after fatality







Hull, immediately after this incident







Restraints appear identical to me. They do look incredibly narrow leaving a big gap between each shoulder. Will be interesting to find out the build of this rider and whether they have let history repeat itself
 
Was this ride the same unit as involved in the Australia accident or one of the same design?
 
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