Looking at how many critical beatings it's getting, and having watched Joker again last night, I'm now anticipating it more than ever. Without spoilers, I can't understand the panning untill I've walked out of the auditorium. Better see this sooner rather than later then!
I liked the Scorsese/Taxi Driver style urban blight depicted in the original. It's one of the things that's interested me about the Batman series in general. There are numerous movies that seem to do a good job of depicting the vibe of what life in New York City was like as it approached, and eventually went bankrupt in the 1970's. From mafia movies to Dirty Harry, or even movies like Saturday night fever, Grand Tourino, and British based movies like Alfie and Harry Brown. Something interesting and endearing about movies that don't paint a coat of hopeful gloss over seedy underbellies that were, and remain, a reality for many people.
The Anton Furst depiction of Gotham in Burton's 2 Batman movies created an architecturally ugly and dark city consisting of greasy and steamy crime ridden alleyways. Although I take issue with wider shots being filmed in a clean and crisp looking Chicago, Nolan's movies featured dark underpasses and 'the narrows'. Cities where hope comes to die, and the original Joker did this well, and just about got away with you at least feeling some partial empathy towards a very mentally ill character, odds stacked firmly against him, living within such an environment.
But from what I've heard, all of that is swept away with the sequal, with it almost entirely taking place within Arkham Asylum, an environment which could have leant itself well for an interesting story itself. They could easily have left Joker where it was as a standalone, but I personally wanted to see more. I wanted to see more of this movement that he inspired. More of how embracing his delusions rather than fighting them developed the character into a psychotic evil crime lord. I wanted the empathy that started to drop away during the first movie as he descends deeper into depravity, to continue where it left off.
I guess I'll find out later!