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War Hero Not Allowed To Ride Air - News Article
Jonathan
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Re: Re: War Hero Not Allowed To Ride Air - News Article
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Pretty much, Sam. It's sad that it seems to have become an overused cliché thanks to the tabloids.Sam said:By the way, does 'war hero' now just mean anyone who's been in a war? Is literally every soldier a 'war hero'...?
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With something like this, Guest Services probably did know, but may have been overlooked when telling him what rides, either because they didn't notice the prostetic limb or it skipped their mind as it's not a question asked that regularly.
Shame really, but its bound to happen when manufacturers and places change their restrictions, which will naturally happen over time.
Shame really, but its bound to happen when manufacturers and places change their restrictions, which will naturally happen over time.
Fredward said:according to the comments Alton Towers should be ashamed"and that "war heroes" should be allowed in for free... yup because we all are second class citizens compared to them.
Man gets refused from a roller coaster:-
The way this country treats its soldiers is sick, especially the state of the country they are fighting for and the idiots who are given free reign. Im ashamed of this country.
The Daily Mail website reminds me how backwards thinking some people can be.
Rose Of Dawn
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Sam said:By the way, does 'war hero' now just mean anyone who's been in a war? Is literally every soldier a 'war hero'...?
Yep. Literally any soldier is considered a 'hero'. So, someone who has done nothing but stand around and not even pulled a trigger is as much of a hero as someone who risked his life for his squad, getting his arm blown off in the process. When soldiers are glorified like this it takes a lot of meaning away from those who could actually be considered 'heroes' for doing something genuinely heroic.
pluk
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I think it would be helpful for the fail to link to their own previous reporting on a similar issue.....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -ride.html
Also, it seems that only injured UK soldiers are heroes, those from other countries merely veterans.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -ride.html
Also, it seems that only injured UK soldiers are heroes, those from other countries merely veterans.
Tom
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Sam said:By the way, does 'war hero' now just mean anyone who's been in a war? Is literally every soldier a 'war hero'...?
According to the book Right-Wing Tabloid Populism - An Editor's Dictionary and Guide:
War hero - any male that has served in the armed forces and has been sent to an area of conflict on behalf of the United Kingdom. Term to be used regardless of any knowledge of service the individual has actually performed in the field.
Refused - told something cannot happen because it is either a) literally impossible or b) not possible without being seriously damaging to the individual and/or others.
The Daily Fail is a joke, BUT I do have an ounce more respect for them than I do with The Sun as they are in bed with Merlin and haven't ran a story against them since the marketing partnership of the last few years.
delta79
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The big question I got is, can a clip in additional restraint be designed and made to hold the remaining part of a lower leg amputee safely during a ride on air?
At least it would show AT cares.
Oh and i quick thought
Nice to see the Right-Wing Tabloid Populism - An Editor's Dictionary and Guide is old school and sexist
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War hero - any male that has served in the armed forces
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At least it would show AT cares.
Oh and i quick thought
Nice to see the Right-Wing Tabloid Populism - An Editor's Dictionary and Guide is old school and sexist
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War hero - any male that has served in the armed forces
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Rose Of Dawn
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delta79 said:The big question I got is, can a clip in additional restraint be designed and made to hold the remaining part of a lower leg amputee safely during a ride on air?
At least it would show AT cares.
Oh and i quick thought
Nice to see the Right-Wing Tabloid Populism - An Editor's Dictionary and Guide is old school and sexist
War hero - any male that has served in the armed forces
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I've never heard of the 'Support R Troopz' crowd saying that a female soldier is a hero.
Tim
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Technically they would be a Heroine 
That's actually a good question. For a ride like Blue Fire you couldn't because the restraint clamps your legs but Air I'm unsure. In theory the vest should mean you're fine anyway but I will try and work it out next time.
Of course it would cost a lot more to make the modification than it would actually be worth. But it could be an idea for new flyers.
delta79 said:The big question I got is, can a clip in additional restraint be designed and made to hold the remaining part of a lower leg amputee safely during a ride on air?
At least it would show AT cares.
That's actually a good question. For a ride like Blue Fire you couldn't because the restraint clamps your legs but Air I'm unsure. In theory the vest should mean you're fine anyway but I will try and work it out next time.
Of course it would cost a lot more to make the modification than it would actually be worth. But it could be an idea for new flyers.
delta79
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Tim
I was thinking a Stretchy fabric C shaped tube that hooks onto the OTSR and the ankle restraint. that would hold the remaining part of the lower leg in ride position, saving it from moving around. so it can't become injured or make the ride uncomfortable for the rider.
It could be doable cheaply and does not need modification of the ride. Just a thought.
I was thinking a Stretchy fabric C shaped tube that hooks onto the OTSR and the ankle restraint. that would hold the remaining part of the lower leg in ride position, saving it from moving around. so it can't become injured or make the ride uncomfortable for the rider.
It could be doable cheaply and does not need modification of the ride. Just a thought.
Alexsutton
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What restrains the lower leg though, if it's stretchy enough to hold a variety of sized guest then would it just stretch and allow the same movement? I was thinking some kind of extension to the ankle flaps to become full lower leg flaps might work, provided they didn't need to extend high enough that they would affect getting in and out of the seat.
RustyRider
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delta79 said:Tim
I was thinking a Stretchy fabric C shaped tube that hooks onto the OTSR and the ankle restraint. that would hold the remaining part of the lower leg in ride position, saving it from moving around. so it can't become injured or make the ride uncomfortable for the rider.
It could be doable cheaply and does not need modification of the ride. Just a thought.
Well I know full well I would take a wide berth to a ride with a leg restraint that "just hooks on to the otsr" and could be done "cheaply"!!
Hmm, when did this come into being, out of curiosity?
I used to know someone who was a below the knee amputee from birth, and she rode Air fine - with her leg in place. Staff once saw it was a prosthesis, asked if it was secure, and when she said it was and she'd ridden Nemesis, they were fine with it.
That was a good few years ago, though.
I used to know someone who was a below the knee amputee from birth, and she rode Air fine - with her leg in place. Staff once saw it was a prosthesis, asked if it was secure, and when she said it was and she'd ridden Nemesis, they were fine with it.
That was a good few years ago, though.
Tim
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Vicki said:Hmm, when did this come into being, out of curiosity?
I used to know someone who was a below the knee amputee from birth, and she rode Air fine - with her leg in place. Staff once saw it was a prosthesis, asked if it was secure, and when she said it was and she'd ridden Nemesis, they were fine with it.
That was a good few years ago, though.
I can't be certain but below the knee amputees should be fine. As she has the upper part of her leg there certainly won't be any issue with the restraint. They could be worried about the prosthetic falling off but if it is detachable she could always remove it before the ride.
I think the main concern with Air and the man being an amputee was because he wouldn’t be held in place correctly.