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Cigarettes sold in Towers Trading

So you think the sale of cigarettes is wrong in a 'family' park? What about the sale of shirts/hoodies/keyrings etc which say 'Ride Me' on them? Btw, I'm not against either, just wondered where the OP stood on this one?
 
Some smoking areas are easier to find than others. here is the one across the way from woodcutters. :D

 
IanB said:
Slugjc said:
I don't have a problem with it. Never had. I don't understand the issue of having "cigarettes in front of children" always been in front of kids and they always will. I don't smoke but when I was at school mates of mine did, and there parents didn't. What does that tell you. Its also the same argument with "bikini clad women in magazines" my child shouldn't see this.................. shall we go to Spain and surround them with half stripped people.

There is nothing you can compare 2nd hand smoke to, and the damage it can causes to the people around you. Being serious, would anyone who smokes or is pro smoking actively encourage other people to start smoking?

In my experience that's how most smokers start. Being offered a fag by a smoker. Or smoking to fit to in. So yes a smoker would encourage.

There is minimal enforcement of the smoking policy by staff, and that is understandable, because just as enforcing the queuing jumping policy, it is going to lead to a argument, where the staff member will in most cases be out numbered.

My final thought on the matter is if you want to do something, or go somewhere badly enough, would a smoking ban put you off? Plenty of smokers fly long distances, and this can mean going without a cigarette for 8+ hours, so surely a 7 hour trip to a theme park would not be impossible?

Ian




Yes it would as im sure most smokers after a 8 hour flight will be dying for a fag. To stop smoker in the outside where you do a hell of a lot of walking (see diogo thread) and where after a intense ride most will need the nicotine come down. Ill let have the pleasure of being round a 20-40 a day smoker trying to go 7 hours away from a fag. the only way I can describe it as a non smoker is like being told you couldn't use the toilet at anytime during those 7-8 hours. You'll want to go and get cranky.
 
IanB said:
My final thought on the matter is if you want to do something, or go somewhere badly enough, would a smoking ban put you off?

OK. this thread started as 'should alton openly sell cigarettes' into the why allow smoking on park.

I thought my thread gauging thoughts on Smoking etiquette, had done this smoking on park topic to death.

As for would a ban put me off going. yes it would, as i am addicted to chemicals in the smoke. Yes smoking is a addiction. We know it not a healthy habbit, and most smokers do take in to consideration the comfort and safety of others when they are looking to light up.
 
delta79 said:
OK. this thread started as 'should alton openly sell cigarettes' into the why allow smoking on park.

I think any thread about smoking, will always end up coming back to peoples own view on smoking but I will try and bring it back on topic since I took it off course a little.

I guess there is some common categories most people fit in to.

Those who think selling on park is fine.
Those who think selling on park should be stopped.

Which category you fall in to depends on your views about the smoking policy at Towers, which I again think some common categories will be.

Smoking should be banned across the park.
Smoking should be limited to designated areas only
Smoking should be banned from queue lines only.
Smoking should be allowed anywhere.

I think 99% of people on here are okay with cigarettes been sold on park as most people fall in to the middle two options above.

I am sure there are other groups and categories you could put people in, but I have just picked some that I feel would be most likely.

My personal view in a ideal world is cigarettes would not be harmful to other people, so those who enjoy smoking could do it where ever they wanted, however, we do not live in the ideal world and this means that while I might not like it, I think Towers should sell cigarettes.

Ian
 
Pixie-Ro said:
So you think the sale of cigarettes is wrong in a 'family' park? What about the sale of shirts/hoodies/keyrings etc which say 'Ride Me' on them? Btw, I'm not against either, just wondered where the OP stood on this one?

I'm beginning to sound like a nun, so those I will accept.. For now ;)
 
To be fair smoking in queue lines can be overcrowded and you will always get someone complaining to you about you smoking, which is fair enough, I'd rather smoke in the designated areas than queue lines. Blackpool pleasure beach everyone just smokes where they feel like it, but it's such a crowded park they don't have room for a smoking area queuing for infusion has a sign saying no smoking beyond this point, but people just ignore it, as the queue line I'd not manned.
 
Well I'm a smoker and I'm more than happy to smoke in the designated areas if clearly marked.
If their is a short q for the rides then I will not smoke in line but 3 hours waiting to to go 13 last time I'm sorry but I had to light up after waiting that time.i hung over the bars and tried to do it discreetly and blown it away from other people in the que.
Did feel bad about this but it had been hours since I had a smoke.will do it again if the ques are hours longs ;)
 
Well I'm a smoker and I'm more than happy to smoke in the designated areas if clearly marked.
If their is a short q for the rides then I will not smoke in line but 3 hours waiting to to go 13 last time I'm sorry but I had to light up after waiting that time.i hung over the bars and tried to do it discreetly and blown it away from other people in the que.
Did feel bad about this but it had been hours since I had a smoke.will do it again if the ques are hours longs ;)

Dude, this thread's so old it roused me out of retirement.
 
I don't get the ban on e ciggies..... There is no smell, just vapour. It's encourages people to give up yet they still ban them. Maybe they should also ban nicorrette chewing gum or patches because e ciggies just contain nicotine as well.

I don't smoke but I honestly don't care about people smoking near me or in the park. It's an open space for Christ sake, there's plenty of air to breathe around you.
 
When it comes to smoking at theme parks - and not just Towers - my view is that I don't mind if people smoke on park, even if it's not in a designated smoking area, as it's usually quite easy to get away from the smell. In queue lines, however, it's not on, as that's a much more confined space, and it's not as easy to avoid it. I'm still puzzled with the whole e-cigarette thing, and why places are banning them when they don't cause anywhere near as much harm to public health.
 
I think the reason e-cigs are facing similar blanket bans is because from a distance it can be hard to see if someone is smoking or using an e-cigarette since they both give off some kind of smoke.

Equally the health 'benefits' of e-cigs over normal cigs haven't been verified or proved yet - for all we know they could bloody be worse!
 
I think it's a bit weird of a park that bans smoking to sell cigarettes but I'm not bothered either way.

To be honest as much as I despise smoking I think the ban is stupid, not only is it not enforceable, no one's ever going to be kicked out the park for smoking along a path or sat off in a midway, are they? Ban it in queue lines where people can't get away from it and where staff can do something about them doing it, but other than that, there's no point having a rule that will be broken anyway. Keep the smoking areas though, just ask politely that people use them rather than saying they must or else.
 
Equally the health 'benefits' of e-cigs over normal cigs haven't been verified or proved yet - for all we know they could bloody be worse!

An important point to remember here! It's easy to look back and laugh at tobacco adverts from decades ago that boast about the health benefits of smoking, and then for us to turn around and blindly believe the health claims about a different gas people are encouraged to inhale!
 
E cigs heat up a liquid solution containing nicotine so it becomes a vapour that can be inhaled. Thats it. There is no gas. No tar. Just vapour.

There are peoples breath in the queue line that smells worse than e cigs!
 
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