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[2024] Thorpe Park: Hyperia - Mack Hypercoaster

Tim said:
I'm not sure you do get the point being made. Wicker Man was never mentioned in my original post because:
A) The reason for not re-using the woodland Flume site was specified in the attractions proposal.
B) The space left unused is accessible from other locations and not blocked by the construction of Wicker Man. If the land was to be used in future there are many opportunities for what can go there.

That second point was mainly what I was trying to highlight. There is unused land behind this coaster that once the ride is built will be blocked from the main park and not usable again. It seems odd that this ride (which has a similar footprint to loggers Leap) would be built over the main Canada Creek area instead. Why not build over just the flumes site and leave space in the Creek for a future ride?
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You are correct. I did not get your point. I now do :)
 
Why would Merlin have a poor relationship with Gerstlaur? I can't see that is the case?

Merlin crashed one of their rollercoasters, not the other way around.

If anything Gerstlaur could be the ones to have an issue with Merlin for not operating their rides safely, and therefore damaging their reputation :eek:

This being a Gerstlaur would certainly help keep costs down however, and I don't think most people would even know. This looks wildly different to the Smiler.
 
During the consultation the park mentioned two interesting things:

1. The ride's capacity is expected to be around the 1,000rph (riders per hour) mark. Take that with a pinch of salt though.
2. The splashdown is still being worked on and finalized, and is not confirmed. It will be "a trench surrounded by a splash effect", which indicates that it will be similar to the one found on Shambhala where fountains shoot up as the train passes, and not an actual splashdown.

Source:

 
Inferno said:
Why would Merlin have a poor relationship with Gerstlaur? I can't see that is the case?
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I think everybody was referring to Gerstlauer having a soured relationship with Merlin, not the other way around.

Even before the crash The Smiler was dogged with problems which were, as I understand it, caused by the park's contractors bodging the installation and not doing it the way Gerstlauer intended.

Even if the relationship is bad though it doesn't really mean much. Money talks. People generally still do business with people they hate.

Anyway, we digress.
 
@Skyscraper In terms of the splashdown, I reckon it’ll probably be more like Diamondback or SheiKra’s splashdown than Shambhala’s, where the riders don’t get wet, but the train has fins on it that create a wave. It works the same as they described (a trench with track in it and not an actual splashdown), but the train itself still generates a wave, which is a means of braking the train.

For what it’s worth, RCDB refers to that type of splash as a “Splash Effect”, the same terminology the park is using here.

This is the sort of thing I mean:
 
jon81uk said:
Attraction Source has summarised points from the consultation.


https://www.facebook.com/213894828494/posts/10158851450333495/
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Skyscraper said:
During the consultation the park mentioned two interesting things:

1. The ride's capacity is expected to be around the 1,000rph (riders per hour) mark. Take that with a pinch of salt though.
2. The splashdown is still being worked on and finalized, and is not confirmed. It will be "a trench surrounded by a splash effect", which indicates that it will be similar to the one found on Shambhala where fountains shoot up as the train passes, and not an actual splashdown.

Source:

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Interesting how some people prefer YouTube for information, I prefer to read it myself.
Your summary of the video contains exactly the same information I reposted from Attraction Source.
Just different ways of finding out things.
 
jon81uk said:
Interesting how some people prefer YouTube for information, I prefer to read it myself.
Your summary of the video contains exactly the same information I reposted from Attraction Source.
Just different ways of finding out things.
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Ah sorry, didn't realise lol. :oops:
 
Matt N said:
@Skyscraper In terms of the splashdown, I reckon it’ll probably be more like Diamondback or SheiKra’s splashdown than Shambhala’s, where the riders don’t get wet, but the train has fins on it that create a wave. It works the same as they described (a trench with track in it and not an actual splashdown), but the train itself still generates a wave, which is a means of braking the train.

For what it’s worth, RCDB refers to that type of splash as a “Splash Effect”, the same terminology the park is using here.

This is the sort of thing I mean:
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If these are Mack trains I don't think they will have scoops or fins on though, especially if they are two-across.
 
Skyscraper said:
If these are Mack trains I don't think they will have scoops or fins on though, especially if they are two-across.
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I wouldn’t deem it impossible by any stretch, though; this coaster could be a first splash effect for Mack, and remember that while Mack’s current hyper coasters only seat 2 across (and even still, this could yet be some extended BigDipper model or something), Mack’s track is also narrower than B&M’s to compensate, so in theory, that would make scoops no less feasible than they are on something like a B&M Hyper.
 
Matt.GC said:
No, but Merlin can. Why would Gerstlaur want to work with them again after one of their installations was dragged through the mud through no fault of their own
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Agreed, but believe it was being asked from the opposite angle, but happy to be wrong.
 
Have Thorpe got new management in it something? Why has it taken this long to come up with a future investment plan?
 
MattyH said:
What confuses me is why we're going to get this and not something like Hyperion, a hyper with Inversions and lots of airtime. Perfect fit for Thorpe's audience.
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Budget. After the relative failures of the park's last two major investments to increase guest figures, there'll be some hesitation over this project in the boardroom.

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